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[rayzor]

That's one of my biggest gripes about this team throughout it's history- slow starts.

 

Come out on Week 1 looking to make a statement. We need 53 Greg Hardy's.

 

being strong at the end of the year means absolutely NOTHING unless they 1) manage to squeak into the playoffs and/or 2) come out hard and fast the next year.

 

this team is a losing team because it takes too long for them to get their poo together...players and coaches. the lack of preparation and focus ultimately lies on the leadership of this team...mainly the coaching staff.

 

if they have a losing record heading into the bye, it's hard to imagine them doing much better overall this year than any other year.

 

they need more than excuses and justifications (which i'm convinced is the panthers way). they need results. they need more than a coach who is rambling on about rome taking centuries to build. they need a coach who pulls them together and gets them fired up and ready coming out of the gate.

 

i hope it happens this year.

 

[SCP]

being strong at the end of the year means absolutely NOTHING unless they 1) manage to squeak into the playoffs and/or 2) come out hard and fast the next year.

this team is a losing team because it takes too long for them to get their poo together...players and coaches. the lack of preparation and focus ultimately lies on the leadership of this team...mainly the coaching staff.

if they have a losing record heading into the bye, it's hard to imagine them doing much better overall this year than any other year.

they need more than excuses and justifications (which i'm convinced is the panthers way). they need results. they need more than a coach who is rambling on about rome taking centuries to build. they need a coach who pulls them together and gets them fired up and ready coming out of the gate.

i hope it happens this year.

Bingo

[iBBB]

Dont get me wrong, i really want infinite superbowlz out of this team, and i am as positive as a plus would get but there is a huge difference between expecting a certain outcome and predicting a certain outcome.

I do too see the potential this team has BUT dont let your will for this team to win to be the driving factor of your team/player/position assessment/evaluation. It often does not end well.

Maybe i've been a panther fan too long. While still very optimistic, I am now very cautious about predicting performance from certain positions and players. but thats just me.

[pantherclaw]

That's one of my biggest gripes about this team throughout it's history- slow starts.

Come out on Week 1 looking to make a statement. We need 53 Greg Hardy's.

always seems like our oline/offense doesn't gel until the second month of the season.

[pantherclaw]

people don't have faith in this team because they haven't given much reason for it. they are a losing team until proven otherwise. they have earned every bit of negativity coming their way.

yet it's the off season.

[rayzor]

yet it's the off season.

not sure why that matters.

 

 

[pantherclaw]

not sure why that matters.

if I were to listen to you, we shouldn't expect improvement and wins cause we've been let down before.

[FastNFurious]

This team could have the best talent in the league, but if they don't figure out how to stop the slow starts that have doomed past seasons, it'll be over before it even starts.

[rayzor]

if I were to listen to you, we shouldn't expect improvement and wins cause we've been let down before.

you don't have to listen to me.

 

you make it sound like getting let down is a rare thing. I've just come to expect it because that's what they do.

 

i expect improvement. i don't expect a winning season because that's not happened but a few times ever and not once since '09. for me to feel good about our chances this year i have to see them come out of the gate winning. until i see that i have no reason to believe that this year will be any different. a slow start with a poo load of excuses. i can't think of a more rational and reasonable way to view it.

 

i have no problem with people buying the yearly hype and ignoring our past. i have no problem with a homeristic point of view. i just don't buy in to all that anymore. i wish i did but the blinders fell off.

[chef17]

When you talk about how good our offense and defense are because they were "top 12" you aren't being objective. Both were ranked 18th in points (you know the most meaningful stat, the one that actually determines wins and losses). Doesn't matter where they ranked in yards, 18th in points along with bad special teams means you aren't a good team.

[Delhommey]

if I were to listen to you, we shouldn't expect improvement and wins cause we've been let down before.

Seriously. Some people on here act like we haven't won a playoff game in 8 years.

[pantherclaw]

Im not ignoring any past.

I certainly don't wear blinders.

Do I have high hopes and expectations. Of course I do. Does that set me up for disappointment should the team not live up to them?

That's part of being a fan.

[frash.exe]

let's face it guys if you don't think you have all pros at every single position well then you're not a real fan turn in your growl towel

[frash.exe]

With Godfrey at the helm in the defensive backfield and Mitchell (IMO) starting we will be good as any at Safety.

 

 

Yes because what happens when one of the worst safeties in the league consistently ranked in the bottom tier in his position every single year joins forces with a reject Raider who was rated -5.1 by pff in 2012? One of the best safety tandems in the league, bro