Stephen A. Smith goes off on Chad Johnson

[AceBoogie]

I've spent some time in courtrooms and Iv'e often seen Judges make jokes drawing laughter. Should they too be punished for not taking the procedures seriously? I've seen far worse than what Chad did. A slap and laughter by himself would have been one thing but the judge told him to thank his lawyer and he did. She was looking for a reason.

[AceBoogie]

There's a good reason the bailiff turned away from the judge to laugh....the second part of your post is BS speculation. The judge is responsible for the decorum of the courtroom. She was offering leniency...he lost that, she didn't deprive him of something he had a right to.

It's not BS any woman would feel some type of way about a man in her court for domestic violence. That's a fact ask a woman. She clearly was looking for a reason. She asked him to thank his attorney and he did. What if he would have hugged his lawyer? Same outcome? Chad actually looked surprised by the laughter. Her actions were overboard. Anybody that has spent time in a courtroom knows that.

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

She was looking for a reason.

She sure was & his dumbass gave her one.

[AceBoogie]

She sure was & his dumbass gave her one.

Doesn't make it justice.

[Vampire the buffet slayer]

Anybody who's been in a courtroom for any serious trouble knows that you keep your answers short and sweet and do nothing to give them a reason to hold you in contempt.

The difference is this is Chad Johnson if it was any other joe blow, he wouldn't have gotten the plea deal to begin with.

[caatfan]

I kind of agree with Greg Doyel - too harsh, yeah, but so was head butting a woman.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/gregg-doyel/22388429/go-to-jail-chad-johnson

 

[La Pantera]

It's not BS any woman would feel some type of way about a man in her court for domestic violence. That's a fact ask a woman. She clearly was looking for a reason. She asked him to thank his attorney and he did. What if he would have hugged his lawyer? Same outcome? Chad actually looked surprised by the laughter. Her actions were overboard. Anybody that has spent time in a courtroom knows that.

She didn't need to find a reason. He gave her one. If she was just trying to make an example out of him, she would've origanally gave him max jail time. She didn't. She let him go with no jail time. THEN he slapped his lawyers ass. At that point she changed her ruling. That's well within her right. He'll end up better this way anyhow. After his 30 days, he'll get off with time served and no more probation. And if you think 30 days is harsh, know that assault on a female carries upwards of a 150+ day in jail. Chad still got off light...

[ed bell]

It's not BS any woman would feel some type of way about a man in her court for domestic violence. That's a fact ask a woman. She clearly was looking for a reason. She asked him to thank his attorney and he did. What if he would have hugged his lawyer? Same outcome? Chad actually looked surprised by the laughter. Her actions were overboard. Anybody that has spent time in a courtroom knows that.

Now you are saying a female judge is incapable of being non-prejudicial and fair when it comes to male defendants in domestic violence cases. Absurd. It was a probation VIOLATION hearing...she signed off on a LENIENT punishment. He screwed himself. She acted completely within her right. If a judge wants to lighten the mood by cracking a joke, they are totally within their right to do that. They are in complete control in their courtroom....they work there every day and are responsible for the environment they create.

[rayzor]

It's not BS any woman would feel some type of way about a man in her court for domestic violence. That's a fact ask a woman. She clearly was looking for a reason. She asked him to thank his attorney and he did. What if he would have hugged his lawyer? Same outcome? Chad actually looked surprised by the laughter. Her actions were overboard. Anybody that has spent time in a courtroom knows that.

Now you are saying a female judge is incapable of being non-prejudicial and fair when it comes to male defendants in domestic violence cases. Absurd. It was a probation VIOLATION hearing...she signed off on a LENIENT punishment. He screwed himself. She acted completely within her right. If a judge wants to lighten the mood by cracking a joke, they are totally within their right to do that. They are in complete control in their courtroom....they work there every day and are responsible for the environment they create.

yep, the counter to that is no woman should feel like she is getting justice when a man is presiding over a domestic assault case where a man has beaten a woman.

 

sorry aceboogie....i'm going to side with the abused over the abuser if the sex of the judge plays a part. a female judge is just as able to make the right call as a male, which is in essence what you are arguing against

[rayzor]

She didn't need to find a reason. He gave her one. If she was just trying to make an example out of him, she would've origanally gave him max jail time. She didn't. She let him go with no jail time. THEN he slapped his lawyers ass. At that point she changed her ruling. That's well within her right. He'll end up better this way anyhow. After his 30 days, he'll get off with time served and no more probation. And if you think 30 days is harsh, know that assault on a female carries upwards of a 150+ day in jail. Chad still got off light...

 

this is what people are forgetting.

 

and it was well within her right to give him the 30 days just as it was well within her right to let him go. he only has himself to blame. he didn't have enough sense to act inappropriately in that courtroom.

 

[AceBoogie]

this is what people are forgetting.

and it was well within her right to give him the 30 days just as it was well within her right to let him go. he only has himself to blame. he didn't have enough sense to act inappropriately in that courtroom.

I'm sorry I know first hand of domestic violence cases where a man has beaten the poo out of a woman and spent a night in jail. He's in jail because his name is Chad Johnson.

There are murderers and rapist out there roaming free but if tap your lawyer on the backside you get 30 days what a joke. Jails are crowded enough.

[xclr82xtc]

I dont tend to condone his actions. but people make mistakes, and eventually they learn..and sometimes the story gets twisted...a man can only take so much.. (been there done that) I dont mind throwing the ball to him though.. sign him. LOL

[Guest HelloWorld]

that's exactly what you've been doing. you're assuming that was the first time the judge had gotten onto him for actng inappropriately in her courtroom. i think it's highly unlikely that is the case.

 

it's her courtroom and she has to control it and make sure that business in there stays at a certain level of respectfulness. it's also likely that his wasn't nearly the only case in that courtroom that day. she had to ensure that disrespectful and inappropriate behavior didn't continue in there.

 

he didn't deserve the plea bargain. he deserved what he earned. she was being gracious in accepting the plea deal and it apparently had more to do with the job his lawyer did than chad's "winning" personality. his behavior was inappropriate for the seriousness of what happens in that courtroom. he admitted he was wrong and started celebrating getting away with it too early. she gave him what he had coming. he has only himself to blame for the 30 days in the hole.

 

 

So the judge find him guilty for celebrating to early?

 

I don't think you understand the significance of imprisonment. The judge is basing the case on his personality as in whether he takes the case seriously rather than the facts. I can guarantee you, you'll hear more about this case in the near future. So, when OJ Simpson breathed a sigh of relief after being found not guilty the judge should have rescinded  the case because he was celebrating too early? How about a hug? Would a hug be appropriate in the judge's eyes? What about complete silence? Would she feel insulted if he didn't answer? What about a bow? Are we allowed to bow in the court rooms? How about a wink? Yes, a wink. I like being winked at. Do judges like winks? What do judges like!

[Floppin]

So the judge find him guilty for celebrating to early?

 

I don't think you understand the significance of imprisonment. The judge is basing the case on his personality as in whether he takes the case seriously rather than the facts. I can guarantee you, you'll hear more about this case in the near future. So, when OJ Simpson breathed a sigh of relief after being found not guilty the judge should have rescinded  the case because he was celebrating too early? How about a hug? Would a hug be appropriate in the judge's eyes? What about complete silence? Would she feel insulted if he didn't answer? What about a bow? Are we allowed to bow in the court rooms? How about a wink? Yes, a wink. I like being winked at. Do judges like winks? What do judges like!

 

He had already plead guilty. That's part of a plea agreement, you have to plead guilty, or no-contest, to receive one - hence why it's called a PLEA agreement. I thought you said you worked in the court system.

 

All she did was alter the terms of the plea agreement. Chad and his attorney could have decided to back out of the agreement at that point, since it wasn't officially filed, but they didn't. Because then they would have had to prove that he was innocent of his probation violation....which he wasn't - he was guilty as fug. Had they backed out and fought it, he would have served the maximum.

 

He still got off light.