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chef17 Apprentice

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 you are debating semantics here, when your m.o. has been that this is the worst secondary in the league and doesn't have talent. you neatly pick out that stat, but then other times when you debate you use the "old eye test" or however you refer to it.

 

when i say talent, i mean norman has the talent to be a #1. He made those kinds of plays last year. Did he get abused? of course he did. should we continue drafting and adding talent in FA? of course. But this secondary isn't as bad as you make it out to be. It has the talent right now to produce on the field.

 

Can you give some examples?

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Montsta Community Regular

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Too bad you aren't allowed to play the game like the 03 team did anymore....

They hit QBs and mauled WRs. Need talent in today's game.

You can't maul people mid-route like Ricky Manning anymore, but you can still be very physical at the line. And you can still disrupt the QB with your dline.

Maybe we don't have guys that can blanket a receiver for 6 seconds. But we have guys that I believe can disrupt them for 3 or 4 seconds while our dline gets in there after the QB. If our safeties can avoid giving up the "oh crap I'm about to get sacked" heave down the field, I think we'll be fine. I know being negative is kind of your shtick and that's fine, but I choose to be positive about the product the team will be putting out their on defense. We can agree to disagree on this one.

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DaveThePanther2008 Grand Master

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White is probably going to sit on the PS tbh. JT, D. Florence, Josh Norman, DJ Moore and Cap will + 4 safeties are probably all we're carrying. Moore = Cap, but Moore seems to be quite talented and Cap is likely staying too. But who knows. No elite DB's in this group, just a wealth of solid players to choose from

 

If White plays well in the preseason and we try to stash him on the PS be prepared for someone to scoop him up.

 

These are going to be some of the decisions that Gettleman is going to have to make.

 

With Ginn and Barner do we really need to keep Adams and Edwards?

 

Linden Gaydosh going to push Fua off the squad?

 

Are White and Lester solid enough to push Senn or someone off special teams so we keep them. 

 

Just remember you have to waive these guys first before you can add them to the P.S.  But I believe there is a rule that you can take someone from another teams PS as long as that individual stays on the roster for the whole season.

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micnificent28 Mentor

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Say what you want about armanti, year after year he put all that droping punts crap behind him. Every single year he's shown improvement. I'd be upset to joe adams on the roster over armanti "at this point". Better return man(he catches it) and a better wr period.

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Say what you want about armanti, year after year he put all that droping punts crap behind him. Every single year he's shown improvement. I'd be upset to joe adams on the roster over armanti "at this point". Better return man(he catches it) and a better wr period.

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TheRumGone Grand Master

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Can you give some examples?

 

sure....two off the top of my head

 

the ny giants game

 

the pass defended in the left side of the end zone on a fade to one of their recievers

 

the bears game when he went up and snagged the int against B. Marshall

 

Those were Very athletic plays. Plays that a #1 corner makes. He's big and he's strong. and he has incredible leaping ability. He can jam the reciever at the line because of his size and strength and needs to continue to work on that.

 

I think that is why people were so excited about Norman in the beginning. The game just caught up to him, being a 5th round rookie from Coastal Carolina going up against opponents #1s on a regular basis. He obviously looked awful in some situations. But he has the talent to be a shutdown corner imo. A lot of what i saw he was lacking can be coached.

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PantherFeez Newbie

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If White plays well in the preseason and we try to stash him on the PS be prepared for someone to scoop him up.

 

These are going to be some of the decisions that Gettleman is going to have to make.

 

With Ginn and Barner do we really need to keep Adams and Edwards?

 

Linden Gaydosh going to push Fua off the squad?

 

Are White and Lester solid enough to push Senn or someone off special teams so we keep them. 

 

Just remember you have to waive these guys first before you can add them to the P.S.  But I believe there is a rule that you can take someone from another teams PS as long as that individual stays on the roster for the whole season.

White was an UDFA for a reason dude, i'd take JT, JN, Cap, Moore, and Florence as our 5 before i'd carry a udfa as our 6th. He's a project that they can stash on the PS (not a must retain). 

 

ginn & barner make edwards, pilares and adams expendable. Fua is a joke, I won't be shocked if Gaydosh wins that spot (smitty spoke well about him)

 

Our special teams captain Senn... being pushed off... by 2 udfa's? There's really nothing to say to you if you consider this realistic.

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MadHatter Rookie

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White was an UDFA for a reason dude, i'd take JT, JN, Cap, Moore, and Florence as our 5 before i'd carry a udfa as our 6th. He's a project that they can stash on the PS (not a must retain). 

Dumb statement.

 

There are UDFA's that come in and earn spots on teams all the time.  There are a list of stars in this league that were UDFA.

 

You can make the arguement (AFTER training camp) that hw was not one of the 5 best.  But to make that statement......after a few OTA's and based solely on his draft position is MORONIC.

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