Coaching is the Key to Success in 2013

[iamhubby1]

You're still not making sense, and I don't know what you're attempting to imply here. 

 

Secondly, I've already stated on this site, that 'I'm sure Gettleman has watched all the film, both with and with out Rivera'. So what are you really trying so say (Lord knows)?

 

Now you're saying Rivera and Gettlemen, are "made for each other". How do you know? Do you have some special insight that we don't (not including the fact, this is before the season even starts, SMH). Are they a couple, or something?? Who's jumped the shark now?

 

Lastly, I didn't say "Rivera needs to learn from Gettlemen". Not at all. That was your implication and inference. I said 'he can'. Secondly, I'm still trying to understand, what the hell you're trying to say again?

 

Any rationale football person, could look at the Panthers games last year, and see where/what Rivera needed help in. That's not a reach in the least bit. And I'm positive it will happen, if it hasn't happened already. I'm still not sure what you're even implying, stating that here. 

 

Remember, Hurney, didn't have the background, track record, reputation, gumption (and most likely respect), that Gettlemen brings to a room. Why don't you feel Gettlemen wouldn't point out certain things to Rivera (which is a separate, than saying how/why/when they spend their time together)?

 

What ever you feel or 'get about from me'. Please don't write, just to write, cause I somehow bring some sort of reaction from you. Please only write something when you're inspired, it makes sense, or is necessary. Cause I still didn't understand the purpose of your response.

 

Who doesn't think, or hope that Rivera could learn a thing or two from Gettlemen? If you were paying attention, you would notice, I'm not talking about coaching perse. I'm talking about all things that we've criticized Rivera in the past. It's his game management, and pointing out, what he did, and didn't do in particular situations.That's part of Gettlemen's job! You don't need to be an NFL Head Coach to do that, if that's what you're implying?

 

Sorry.

Fisrtly. I didn't realize being incoherent was against the rules.

Second. Please, if you are going to use my words to make your argument. It would be really nice of you if you quoted me properly. Just a little thing I know.

I said Rivera and Gettlemen are two peas in a pod. I gave my reasons, now you are telling me my perceptions are misplaced. Do all differing points of view affect you as much as mine?

Thirdly. I am, as they say, busting on your ballz. The thin air up on that high horse must be getting to you. I gave a cause, then, a reason. Sounds like sane thinking to me.

Lastly. (Because this is my last point.) I still believe Rivera and Gettlemen spend an awful lot of time together. I think/believe they are working together to build the best team they can. Rivera and Gettlemen, sittin' in a tree. Yeah, that close.

[FootballMaestro]

Fisrtly. I didn't realize being incoherent was against the rules.

Second. Please, if you are going to use my words to make your argument. It would be really nice of you if you quoted me properly. Just a little thing I know.

I said Rivera and Gettlemen are two peas in a pod. I gave my reasons, now you are telling me my perceptions are misplaced. Do all differing points of view affect you as much as mine?

Thirdly. I am, as they say, busting on your ballz. The thin air up on that high horse must be getting to you. I gave a cause, then, a reason. Sounds like sane thinking to me.

Lastly. (Because this is my last point.) I still believe Rivera and Gettlemen spend an awful lot of time together. I think/believe they are working together to build the best team they can. Rivera and Gettlemen, sittin' in a tree. Yeah, that close.

 

Once again: What does what you're saying (especially your last paragraph) have anything to do with what I said? Where's the relevance (yikes)?

 

Please just leave it alone, and (yes) let it be your last statement indeed. 

 

Good cheers, and have a good rest of the week.  :sword:

 

Thanks

[iamhubby1]

Once again: What does what you're saying (especially your last paragraph) have anything to do with what I said? Where's the relevance (yikes)?

 

Please just leave it alone, and (yes) let it be your last statement indeed. 

 

Good cheers, and have a good rest of the week.  :sword:

 

Thanks

Yeah. Class dismissed. Thanks teach.

Surely someone with your obvious intellect can figure this out. Now, I ain't neerly as smart az you. But if it were me. I might start at the beginning.

You seem to feel your assumptions are more valid than mine. I took umbrage with that assumption, so I have been busting your chops ever since. I find it strange that I even have to explain this. From tone of your responses, you seem like a smart enough kinda guy.

No, I cannot disprove your assumptions. All I CAN do, is tell you I feel the growth in this team over the last 2 years is visible. And I am not alone. We are out there, lurking in the background. Waiting for the rest of you to show up. Then...BAM! There we are, saying we knew it all along.

Lastly, I use lastly because I am finishing up here, my feelings and opinions about the Panthers are purely my own. And may not be viewed as anything other than what they are.

You are welcome.

[FootballMaestro]

Yeah. Class dismissed. Thanks teach.

Surely someone with your obvious intellect can figure this out. Now, I ain't neerly as smart az you. But if it were me. I might start at the beginning.

You seem to feel your assumptions are more valid than mine. I took umbrage with that assumption, so I have been busting your chops ever since. I find it strange that I even have to explain this. From tone of your responses, you seem like a smart enough kinda guy.

No, I cannot disprove your assumptions. All I CAN do, is tell you I feel the growth in this team over the last 2 years is visible. And I am not alone. We are out there, lurking in the background. Waiting for the rest of you to show up. Then...BAM! There we are, saying we knew it all along.

Lastly, I use lastly because I am finishing up here, my feelings and opinions about the Panthers are purely my own. And may not be viewed as anything other than what they are.

You are welcome.

 

Just let it go please. 

 

Thanks

[iamhubby1]

Well...since you asked so nicely. OK.

You're welcome.

[panthers55]

What always seem to go missing in this discussion is that coaches call the plays but player execute them.  The assumption when a player screws up is that the coach didn't do a good enough job coaching them as if mistakes that players make can be coached out of existence.  It is one thing to say for example that Rivera should or shouldn't have called a timeout, that one is totally his mistake.  On the other hand do you think that any coach told Nakamura to play shallow and let a receiver get behind him. And trust me I am sure he was coached  correctly and I bet even before they got on the field for that play, he was told to play deep and keep everything in front of him. He screwed up and was replaced because of it. If it had been on the coaches, he would still be starting.  I am also sure that Norman was not told to play 10 yards off of the receiver and allow him to catch everything in front of him. Do we really know what was told to him or only what happened.  The fact Norman was replaced as well suggests that what he did was not what he should have done.  While I haven't coached at a high level I can tell you that my players sometimes made huge mistakes about things that we went over and over.  I think that Rivera is an easy target and in some cases deserves what he got in the way of criticism.  However on many other occasions he took the heat for players errors and from the tone of most of the posts here very little credit for the myriad of things that he has done right.  But that is really human nature, focus on the negative and scapegoat someone instead of looking for the positive and spreading the blame around where it belongs.

[pantherclaw]

excellent posting, hubby.

I have been one that wanted Rivera as our next head coach, even when we still had fox.

why? cause he's a neck of a coach. he has proven he can coach any defensive alignment. he's been successful coach both a 34 defense, and the 43.

Which means he understands x's and o's very well, and coaches his players up very well. he's constantly strives for the best.

his first two seasons as a head coach has been rocky at times. to be expected from some one who has never been a head coach at any level. he's made some decisions that have made me so mad, i wished he had never never became our head coach. with a cooler head on my shoulders, i know he is learning from his mistakes.

i also know that coaching isn't the only reason for our teams struggles.

Rivera is a great coach. i have no doubts he's making strides to become a better head coach than his mistakes in the past suggest.

[iamhubby1]

excellent posting, hobby.

I have been one that wanted Rivera as our next head coach, even when we still had fox.

why? cause he's a neck of a coach. he has proven he can coach any defensive alignment. he's been successful coach both a 34 defense, and the 43.

Which means he understands x's and o's very well, and coaches his players up very well. he's constantly strives for the best.

his first two seasons as a head coach has been rocky at times. to be expected from some one who has never been a head coach at any level. he's made some decisions that have made me so mad, i wished he had never never became our head coach. with a cooler head on my shoulders, i know he is learning from his mistakes.

i also know that coaching isn't the only reason for our teams struggles.

Rivera is a great coach. i have no doubts he's making strides to become a better head coach than his mistakes in the past suggest.

It usually takes 1st time Head Coaches some time to hit their strides. He is never going to be perfect, but I think he is getting better and growing into the position rather nicely.

Some see Rivera and his past mistakes and think he is doomed to repeat them. Others, like you and me, are not afraid of the past as it is to be learned from not feared.

Since we got Cam, the expectations have been raised. But with our recent history folks tend to temper their enthusiasm with fear of that past. It is a fair judgement.

I am hanging my hat on three things. One, we have a Football guy running the show. Two, Rivera, McD, and Keek. A top tenish Defense gives us the chance to beat anybody. Three, we have Cam. He gives us a chance to beat anybody.

If we keep the momentum going from last year. We should have a very good year. And I can live with that.