Rockets trying to trade Thomas Robinson

[carolina-chuck]

 

From Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:

 

"The Houston Rockets are determined to trade forward Thomas Robinson – the fifth pick in the 2012 NBA draft – to create salary-cap space for the pursuit of Los Angeles Lakers’ free-agent superstar Dwight Howard, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Rockets have made clear to multiple rival teams that they plan to accept the best offer to move Robinson and eliminate his $3.52 million salary for the 2013-14 season."

 

 

 

Thomas Robinson was clearly one of my favorite prospect in last year draft. I know he was pretty bad last season and was traded from Sac to the Rockets. Now, he may be finding a 3rd home in just after 1 year. I think the potential is there with T-Rob and there's really more than like about him than not. He's still a rookie and there' still a lot of time for him to improve his game in the NBA. I do not see him as a potential bust. I really believe he will become a capable starting PF in the league 2-3 years from now. We are clearly lacking some presence in the paint and adding a young guy like T-Rob would be a nice addition to build for the future.

 

What will be the cost of trading for T-Rob? Draft pick(s) (2014)? Houston clearly wants him gone. I think we can get him for cheap. IMO, Cho needs to get on the phone right now with Houston!

 

 

 

also, don't yall think MKG and T-Rob kinda look alike?

 

[carolina-chuck]

2013-2014

 

PG: Kemba

SG: Oladipo
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor
PF: Robinson
C  : Biz

or

PG: Kemba
SG: Hendo
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor
PF: Anthony Bennett
C  : Biz / Robinson

 

 

 

2014-2015

PG: Kemba
SG: Oladipo
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor
PF: Julius Randle
C  : Biz / Robinson

 or

PG: Kemba
SG: Andrew Wiggins? Jabari Parker? / Hendo
SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor
PF: Anthony Bennett
C  : Biz / Robinson

 

 

 

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

No, he's complete garbage.

There is a reason that he has already been traded once.

And to think a lot of to guys wanted him to begin with... smh.

[Guest]

2013-2014

PG: Kemba

SG: Oladipo

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Robinson

C : Biz

or

PG: Kemba

SG: Hendo

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Anthony Bennett

C : Biz / Robinson

2014-2015

PG: Kemba

SG: Oladipo

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Julius Randle

C : Biz / Robinson

or

PG: Kemba

SG: Andrew Wiggins? Jabari Parker? / Hendo

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist / Taylor

PF: Anthony Bennett

C : Biz / Robinson

Not sure Robinson is a good fit at center. His ability is better suited to the PF position. I guess he could do ok in rotation, but personally it could be a waste to get him as backup to Biyombo.

As for MKG, if he doesn't improve markedly then he will likely drop to the bench if we draft Wiggins or Parker. I don't see him keeping them out at SF, and MKG isn't big enough to move to PF full time, nor does he have the skill set to drop to SG. So if we get Wiggins or Parker, then MKG's stint starting here is likely to be over.

That said, those teams do have potential.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Just a random note, but Jabari won't be playing SG.  SF or PF, much like Carmelo.  I've even seen where some GM called him Carmelo without the issues.  Not a bad comparison. 

 

As for T-Rob, I really liked him coming out/seemed like a good kid, but I don't think he has it. 

[yasuhara2241]

I say YES! We always say we can't discount Rookies so why not. We do not have any true PFs and plus this opens the door to pick a SG. I really like this young group. 

 

Kemba 

Odalipo/McLemore

MKG 

T-Rob

Biz

 

Most I'd give is Portland Pick but would love to get him for a few 2nds but don't think that is possible.

[Proudiddy]

How often do teams trade their top 5 pick in their rookie season?

 

That's all you need to know.

 

TRob is going to wash out of the league pretty quickly.

[4Corners]

A lot of losers on here love to read and quote my posts from over a year ago. Go back and read what I said about this dude before he was drafted.

Dude is a scrub. Nailed it.

[4Corners]

How often do teams trade their top 5 pick in their rookie season?

That's all you need to know.

TRob is going to wash out of the league pretty quickly.

He rode the bench at Kansas before his final year and their tourney run. Like I said at least 100x now, Kansas did not end Carolina's season 2 years ago. Kendall Marshall's broken wrist at Creighton did.

[Keith Moons Liver]

How often do teams trade their top 5 pick in their rookie season?

 

That's all you need to know.

 

TRob is going to wash out of the league pretty quickly.

 

To be fair, him getting traded by the Kings was solely a cost cutting move by an extraordinarily incompetent franchise on the verge of being sold. And the Rockets trying to trade him is strictly a salary dumping move to chase Howard.

 

There's no denying that for such an "NBA ready" prospect he struggled last season, but it's way too early to give up on him. Maybe he just sucks, but there are also some very valid excuses which could explain his poor play- no rookie was in a worse situation than him. While I'm not holding my breath for him to turn into a star, he still has NBA talent and could become a serviceable player.

 

Given how bad our frontcourt is I'd love to pick him up for cheap. However I think Morey will be able to get something decent in return for him- there will be enough interest that nobody is going to get him for free. I think we should at least be interested and inquiring about his cost, but I don't want to see us trading away good picks for him. 

[4Corners]

Dude is a scrub

I wouldn't trade a 3rd round pick for him

[thatlookseasy]

How often do teams trade their top 5 pick in their rookie season?

 

That's all you need to know.

 

TRob is going to wash out of the league pretty quickly.

 

Never.  Literally never.  That doesnt tell you that he is a bust, that tells you the Kings have no fuging clue what they are doing running a franchise.

 

He never got a chance with the Kings since they already have solid big men (Cousins and Jason Thompson), and instead of doing what most lottery teams would do in their situation (cut minutes from your vets and play your rookie to see what happens) they gave him away. 

 

Unfortunately for Robinson, he doesnt really make sense on the Rockets either since he cant shoot 3s or defend the rim and those are the most important qualities their team looks for in big guys.

 

I'm not saying Robinson is going to be good, he could very easily be playing in Europe in a few years.  But acting like the guys career is over because of a shitty rookie season where he never got a chance to play?  I'm not buying it, especially when there are other teams out there who just spent an entire season starting Byron Mullens and Josh Mcroberts at PF

[OchoNueve]

How often do teams trade their top 5 pick in their rookie season?

 

That's all you need to know.

 

TRob is going to wash out of the league pretty quickly.

I agree that the writing is on the wall and most players that hop from team to team this early in there career do fizzle out, but I do think it is too early for the verdict to be in on TRob.

 

Joe Johnson was traded by Celtics to Suns in his rookie year halfway through the season, then traded to the Hawks 3 years later only to now be consider a max level player.

 

Rasheed Wallace traded from Washington to Portland after rookie year.

 

Chris Webber was one and done in Golden State only that was more his doing than the team wanting to trade him. (I think he excercised a one-year option in his rookie deal)

 

Kevin Johnson was traded from Cleveland to Phoenix near the end of his rookie year.

 

The initial trade from Sacremento to Houston was shocking, but Houston now wants to trade him strictly to relieve cap room in order to go after Dwight Howard.  As long as we don't give up any more than a 2nd round pick, maybe a late first (not that we have any) or some cash considerations, i think a young team like the Bobcats/ Hornets could help TRob get some playing time and NBA confidence.  I was high on him before the draft last year, and although undersized, I just don't see a guy with his length and build leaving the league so soon.

[carolina-chuck]

I agree that the writing is on the wall and most players that hop from team to team this early in there career do fizzle out, but I do think it is too early for the verdict to be in on TRob.

Joe Johnson was traded by Celtics to Suns in his rookie year halfway through the season, then traded to the Hawks 3 years later only to now be consider a max level player.

Rasheed Wallace traded from Washington to Portland after rookie year.

Chris Webber was one and done in Golden State only that was more his doing than the team wanting to trade him. (I think he excercised a one-year option in his rookie deal)

Kevin Johnson was traded from Cleveland to Phoenix near the end of his rookie year.

The initial trade from Sacremento to Houston was shocking, but Houston now wants to trade him strictly to relieve cap room in order to go after Dwight Howard. As long as we don't give up any more than a 2nd round pick, maybe a late first (not that we have any) or some cash considerations, i think a young team like the Bobcats/ Hornets could help TRob get some playing time and NBA confidence. I was high on him before the draft last year, and although undersized, I just don't see a guy with his length and build leaving the league so soon.

This!

There was reasons that Trob was traded from Sac and now Houston wanting to trade him. It says nothing that he can't play in this league.

As far as I know, that Sac team is a capable Playoffs team with Evans, Cousins, etc. Sac has no clue to winning. We have less talents than they do and is just as good as them.