Why is Shula simplifying the offense?

[Zod]

I guess if you can't come up with enough words.

It says they used six. Six words, six plays

[CRA]

Wouldn't using one word also drastically reduce the number of plays available?

I think it is more of the NFL learning from college....

They don't waste as much time with a QB doing the traditional long barking anymore....and they aren't just recycling the same plays all game.

Variations of plays don't have to be complex calls....if the entire offense is required to know there reponsibilties to said variation.

[TheRumGone]

It says they used six. Six words, six plays

 

where did it say they used six

 

edit: nm

[CRA]

It says they used six. Six words, six plays

Six one word play calls a game....not just six, six per week.

And that was them year one adapting to what colleges are doing on much larger scales. Knowing the Pats it will grow...they tend to stay on the front end of change and the college world is bleeding over

the article did a good job brining up the Gruden/Cam moment....Gruden's long drawn out junk isn't the only way. Cam at Auburn didnt have 6 one word plays....they had tons and tons. That doesn't you run it all game every down with one worders.....to simply things. But there are means around the long bs that Gruden acted was so impressive and silly for Cam not to get

[CRA]

Also, in addition to the Patriots adding six one word calls a game.

Go to the thread about Cam on yahoo.....they also mention how Brady had 7-8 long word plays reduced to 3.

So they simplified many aspects...they just didnt add a one word play here and there

[FootballMaestro]

Simplified play calls are all the rage on the college level, where O’Brien has transferred the Patriots’ package — dubbed “NASCAR” at Penn State — to the Nittany Lions, who ran 39 plays in just more than a quarter to erase a 28-17 deficit to defeat Northwestern, 39-28, Saturday.

 

That previously mentioned lengthy West Coast play call? It’s the same one ESPN analyst Jon Gruden threw at former Auburn quarterback Cam Newton on his QB Camp television special.

 

Newton was at a loss to equate an Auburn play to an NFL play. Newton was ridiculed nationally because critics thought it showed that Newton couldn’t handle a pro offense.

 

But what people didn’t realize at the time was Newton’s subsequent answer, when Gruden talked about Auburn using the no-huddle a lot, was actually more telling.

 

“Our method is ‘simplistic equals fast,” Newton said. “It’s so simple as far as, you look to the sideline [and] you see ‘36’ on the board. And that’s a play. And we’re off.”

 

What people didn’t get, because the NFL is slow to evolve, is that Newton was actually showing them a glimpse of the future.

 

 

A faster Panther offense would be great!

 

Besides the obvious reasons; too many times last year, the Panther offense could barely finish the play before 30 secs,  was Helter Skelter, and/or had to waste much needed time outs. 

[iamhubby1]

Bilicheat said they had 6 one word plays, for plays to stop the clock. Not one word plays for the entire playbook. C'mon guys. Read.

And half the comments in this thread are totally undecipherable. Folks trying to hard to sound knowledgeable, and not doing a very good job.

The no huddle is great. But you are limited by the personnel you have on the field. You cannot substitute, because when you do, you have to let the D substitute as well. Which slows you back down. I guess if you use the same personnel the whole drive it could work out nicely. It has a place in todays NFL that is for sure.

As SCP said. Coaches are creatures of habit. It will take a few coaches longer to catch up than the rest. I guess it can come down to job security. If you have it, or you think you may lose it, you may try this concept out. If it works you look like a genius. Kinda like me. jk

[CRA]

Bilicheat said they had 6 one word plays, for plays to stop the clock. Not one word plays for the entire playbook. C'mon guys. Read.

And half the comments in this thread are totally undecipherable. Folks trying to hard to sound knowledgeable, and not doing a very good job.

The no huddle is great. But you are limited by the personnel you have on the field. You cannot substitute, because when you do, you have to let the D substitute as well. Which slows you back down. I guess if you use the same personnel the whole drive it could work out nicely. It has a place in todays NFL that is for sure.

As SCP said. Coaches are creatures of habit. It will take a few coaches longer to catch up than the rest. I guess it can come down to job security. If you have it, or you think you may lose it, you may try this concept out. If it works you look like a genius. Kinda like me. jk

Actually, it said most teams had simplistic calls for plays to stop the clock (like a spike)...the article then went on to explain the Patriots expanded that concept beyond that adding the six one word plays into there offense and beyond the emergency one word play stoppage plays most teams had been using

The other article also mentioned how Brady's standard 8 word calls where cut in half in addition to the one word playcalls.

[iamhubby1]

Actually, it said most teams had simplistic calls for plays to stop the clock (like a spike)...the article then went on to explain the Patriots expanded that concept beyond that adding the six one word plays into there offense and beyond the emergency one word play stoppage plays most teams had been using

The other article also mentioned how Brady's standard 8 word calls where cut in half in addition to the one word playcalls.

Um, not sure why your felt the need to explain it to me? Thanks I guess. Even if your explanation is off just a little. Thanks for the effort.

[CRA]

Um, not sure why your felt the need to explain it to me? Thanks I guess. Even if your explanation is off just a little. Thanks for the effort.

You said the six one word plays were to stop the clock....that wasn't accurate so I corrected it

[iamhubby1]

You said the six one word plays were to stop the clock....that wasn't accurate so I corrected it

“A lot of times it was situational,” Belichick said. “Like we were in the hurry-up and you have to get the ball out of bounds, whatever it is. But sometimes we’ve had that where one play means this is where we line up, this is the play we run, this is the snap count it’s on, and we’re going to either try to catch the defense off balance or we don’t have time to have a big conversation about this. It’s line up, snap the ball, and we’re running a sideline route to get the ball out of bounds or something like that.”

But that was the extent of the Patriots’ quick verbiage with shortened play calls.

But hey, thanks for playing.

[CRA]

“A lot of times it was situational,” Belichick said. “Like we were in the hurry-up and you have to get the ball out of bounds, whatever it is. But sometimes we’ve had that where one play means this is where we line up, this is the play we run, this is the snap count it’s on, and we’re going to either try to catch the defense off balance or we don’t have time to have a big conversation about this. It’s line up, snap the ball, and we’re running a sideline route to get the ball out of bounds or something like that.”

But that was the extent of the Patriots’ quick verbiage with shortened play calls.

But hey, thanks for playing.

No, it wasn't. Go read the yahoo article in the other thread that ALSO talks about NE simplifying the verbiage....

Standard 8-9 word play calls were changes to 3 words. They simplified a lot in 2012.

You are suggesting the quick and shortened play calls where only brought into play in clock management situations....which again is false in regards to NE. The article even made a point to mention teams had already been doing THAT....

[TheRumGone]

I thought about making a new thread but here is some other things about this simplified offense

 

What it will look like on Week One is still up in the air, but one thing is for sure with coach Ron Rivera: They’ll be getting out of the huddle faster in 2013.

By simplifying the verbiage for play calls, Rivera expects the team to break the huddle faster and with less confusion.

 

“We want to be up-tempo, we want to practice up-tempo and get things going up-tempo,” Rivera said Thursday at organized team activities. “That’s what you see, you see more of that in the last couple weeks in these OTAs.”

 

Quarterback Cam Newton mentioned the simplified verbiage as a big difference between the philosophies of Chudzinski and Shula, who took over at the offensive coordinator in January after Chudzinski took the Cleveland Browns head coaching job.

 

Newton said when streamlining the play-calling, players can play faster.

 

Rivera said there were too many words for certain calls. Now, the team is creating words that combine certain calls.

 

“I think it’s a mouthful,” Rivera said. “...Now what you’ve done is you’ve taken these words and you’ve grouped them together. That was the whole idea. If this means this, and this means this with these two together, then let’s just combine those.

 

“And that’s kind of what they’ve started to do. They’re really shortened the calls a lot simpler. The less you have to memorize, the easier it is.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/05/30/4076436/ron-rivera-carolina-panthers-offense.html#storylink=cpy

 

[iamhubby1]

No, it wasn't. Go read the yahoo article in the other thread that ALSO talks about NE simplifying the verbiage....

Standard 8-9 word play calls were changes to 3 words. They simplified a lot in 2012.

You are suggesting the quick and shortened play calls where only brought into play in clock management situations....which again is false in regards to NE. The article even made a point to mention teams had already been doing THAT....

Let's see... I give you a direct quote from the article. And you still disregard it?

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