Cam Newton poised for breakout year - ESPN

[fieryprophet]

You still haven't posted a link. That's just something yall thought up. Maybe it was only his 2nd year and he couldn't read defenses right then and there to audible. Or maybe there weren't any audible plays period

Smith referenced it during a discussion on WFNZ regarding Chud, and it was common knowledge before then.

[carolina-chuck]

Great read!

[SIGCHI222]

An informative article by Yasinkas, how refreshing.

 

...how rare?

[beastson]

Yes because Cam sucked at reading defenses in his rookie campaign. [sarcasm]

You have got to be kidding me. So let me guess this straight, Chud designed our 2012 offense without audibles? That's one of your 'theories'? Good lord. So what exactly was Cam doing in the second half of the season?

 

I don't have a theory

 

When Gruden asked Cam about audibles, he didn't even know what it was

 

Rivera knew about this as much as Chud did, so they both take the blame

 

The QB makes those decisions even if they're small ones

 

 

“One thing he did do a little bit more of yesterday was change a couple plays at the line of scrimmage,” Rivera said. “I think he’s starting to get comfortable with those things. As he improves and learns those things, I think he’ll get better and better.”

 

[koolkatluke]

Where people get this from?

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/11/27/3691460/newtons-newfound-freedom-leads.html

 

Cam Newton generally operated out of the shotgun, used the zone-read option and rarely had the green light to audible through his first season and a half as an NFL quarterback.

Without the ability to change the play, he had to rely on his feet to get out of trouble.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/11/27/3691460/newtons-newfound-freedom-leads.html#storylink=cpy

[panfanman]

I just hope our o line improves - that will be key for Cam having a big year.

This was exactly what I was thinking when I read this article. I think the success of our oline will determine the success of the rest of our offense.

When you look at our oline last year you just cringed at how porious it was. Defenses knew they could bull rush us. There never was a pocket for Newton to be a pocket passer. And we didn't do much in the draft to fix this problem.

With the money we saved in DW's restructure we need to go after Eric Winston. Read this article on him from 2012:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/13/eric-winston-hits-the-market/

I guarantee you Smith will have a pro bowl calibre season and we will see another one of our receivers step up big if we can land Winston because it will allow Cam to stand in the pocket which he could not do last year.

[Creep59]

Would love to sign Winston-

 

with our cap situation as it is I dont see it happening.  I have a feeling Gettlman likes breathing room in case there are other bodies available to sign later on, prior to the season.

[MadHatter]

Cam was forcing the ball to create opportunities in the first half of the season BUT let's not forget that Chud restricted Cam from audibling.

 

All of this arguing about audibles is getting ridiculous.

 

It is pretty evident that Cam was not calling audibles at the LOS.  This could be for various reasons:

 

1. Cam's ability to read defenses and make quick audible decisions was not there, or

2. Chud was an ego maniac who refused to give up any control

 

Fact of the matter is that none of us know the reason.

 

Everyone hear is clamoring for Cam to be set loose and call more plays at the LOS.  But, we don't know whether that would be a good thing or a bad thing.  Those who slobber all over Cam believe that everyone is just holding him back. Others probably believe there was some level of valid reason for not letting Cam do this.

 

Personally, I am cautiously optimistic.  The game really seemed to slow down for Cam in the 2nd half of last year.  You saw him more comfortable....pressing less...making better decisions (why the interceptions went WAY down in the last 6 games).

 

It will be an interesting ride early in the season to see what Rivera and Shula do.  With their relationship, Shula knows Cam and his abilities better than anyone.  If he let's him loose, great.  If he doesn't, it will be because he is flat out not ready.

 

Let's see what happens on the field....instead of arguing about poo that none of us has ANY fuging CLUE what we are talking about.

[Zod]

I would assume that Cam was limited in his audible calls because he didn't show proper aptitude for it in practice until later in the season. It is a learning curve for all young QBs. 

 

Just like everything else we see on the field on Sundays, its constructed on the practice field and the class room.

 

It sill to think Chud didn't allow audibles for any other reason.

[fieryprophet]

I would assume that Cam was limited in his audible calls because he didn't show proper aptitude for it in practice until later in the season. It is a learning curve for all young QBs.

Just like everything else we see on the field on Sundays, its constructed on the practice field and the class room.

It sill to think Chud didn't allow audibles for any other reason.

I don't know, I know of some specific audible examples that turned out well early on. He audibled to the run play @ Detroit last year where he scored his second rushing TD. He was also getting two play calls at a time last year to at least some extent; I think the lessened restrictions probably will have less to do with actual audibles but being able to change the play entirely, as perhaps Chud was sending him two play calls that didn't fit what the defense would show. But that's a good point about practice; we all have seen how Cam will tend to force things at times, so perhaps he'd try to runs the plays given in practice no matter what and give the coaches no indication he'd be apt to put the freedom to audible to good use.

[rayzor]

 

I don't have a theory

 

When Gruden asked Cam about audibles, he didn't even know what it was

 

Rivera knew about this as much as Chud did, so they both take the blame

 

The QB makes those decisions even if they're small ones

 

 

“One thing he did do a little bit more of yesterday was change a couple plays at the line of scrimmage,” Rivera said. “I think he’s starting to get comfortable with those things. As he improves and learns those things, I think he’ll get better and better.”

lol cam didn't even know what an audible was? gtfo.

 

gruden, who ran a WCO which is known for having some of the most complicated and unnecessarily lengthy verbiage of any offense asked a QB who came from an one word/number, hurry up offense for an example of a typical play call that he would use at auburn and cam gave him one.

 

gruden didn't seem to think it was enough...go figure.

 

for the record, gruden has since gotten educated on the one word/hurry up offense, as has belichick and the pats who incorporated it because its better and quicker than using lengthy verbiage. gruden has said that he would use it when he returns to coaching.  lengthy verbiage is on the way out and one word/number playcalling will be the future.

[thefuzz]

I would assume that Cam was limited in his audible calls because he didn't show proper aptitude for it in practice until later in the season. It is a learning curve for all young QBs. 

 

Just like everything else we see on the field on Sundays, its constructed on the practice field and the class room.

 

It sill to think Chud didn't allow audibles for any other reason.

 

This is my opinion as well.

 

Very few QB's can roll into the NFL and match wits with the defensive coordinators on their own.

 

It takes years to get a QB educated enough to deal with all the different D looks and movements (or lack thereof).

 

It's one of the reasons that I was nervous about drafting Cam, not ability, but experience.

[MadHatter]

I'll argue what I want to argue, okay? Thanks.

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You are correct. It is fully within your right to continue being a dumbass and argue about things that (1) you know poo about, and (2) have zero control over.

Not being able to read defenses pre-snap (how they were disguising coverages) is different than reading the defense and making the right call during the play. Therefore, your assertion that he would have thrown more interceptions is restarted.

So, continue as you were....we will just all continue to laugh at you.

[Razeyfingers]

Wow Im kind of blown away that he wouldnt get any options to audible. I mean, I get that the QB has to show the coach that he will do it at the right times when theyre looking at film first or whatever but, wow that takes away what I would have thought to be a factor in running an offense.

 

Sounds like youre trying to get your QB killed. At least have something go-to, at least give him one option. I mean, set snap with nooooooo. . nothin?