Gettlemen continues to get criticism for not bringing in a WR

[Kakarot]

And I thought we would have to cut more players than we did to get under this year's cap. Point is, neither of us knows diddly-poo about the future.

 

Look at Percy Harvin. He was under contract with Minnesota for this season, but got traded out of town. Do you really think ANYONE on this board could have foreseen that happening?

 

Unrestricted free agents and draft picks aren't the only way to change your roster. Creativity is something I'm optimistic we now have in the front office.

I saw it happening, because Percy Harvin was unhappy with the offense in Minnesota, and demanded a trade.  It was pretty easy to assume Percy was going to get traded out of town.  He had been unhappy in Minny for awhile, now. 

[Kakarot]

The way I see it. The only way we add any WR, or hellz, any player, to this squad, is if he can fight for a starting gig.

Let's see. Smitty is a pro bowl level talent. Olsen, same level of talent. Lafell, solid as it gets. How many teams have 3 pro bowl quality recievers? I guess because we don't have the BEST WR group in the league. We need to upgrade immediately.

Lafell may be listed as the #2WR, but he is often times the 3rd option and maybe even the 4th. That is the reason he doesn't get more than 4 or so targets a game. It is not for a lack of talent on his part. It is the talent ahead of him.

Smitty, Olsen, Lafell, DWill, Stewy, Tolbert, with Hixon, Ginn, and maybe Barner fighting for targets. Seems to me, Cam has plenty of weapons.

We have bigger needs than adding another project WR. If he ain't a starter. We don't need him. At this time. Soon, very soon, we will need him to make his arrival. But it is not going to happen this year. Barring anything unforeseen.

Long story short. We are pretty much who we are going to be. Better than last year, so there is still plenty of reasons to be excited. The field is open for someone to take advantage of this opportunity.

Kinda got carried away. Deal. And GOOOOO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hold up, now.  Are you saying Lafell is a pro bowl level talent?

[O-Ther]

I saw it happening, because Percy Harvin was unhappy with the offense in Minnesota, and demanded a trade.  It was pretty easy to assume Percy was going to get traded out of town.  He had been unhappy in Minny for awhile, now. 

See, you're touching on another way to improve the WR position here besides using draft picks.

 

Creativity.

 

Now study the league and come up with a few WR that want out of town and also fit our offense.

 

There's also WRs that can be restricted free agents next off-season. Study them and make decisions about the cap to fit them in.

 

BTW, June 1st is coming up. Might be somebody there we can use.

 

Cuts will be coming up before, during, and after training camp.

 

Players will get hurt and because they will miss the first weeks or half the season, be released.

 

Also, signing a vet AFTER the first game means his contract isn't guaranteed for the rest of the season, helping the cap.

 

Bottom line, so many ways to change the roster are still to come it's asinine to start despairing because you don't like the way a position looks at this particular moment.

 

Cheer up, fellow Panther fan. More sunshine ahead than darkness.

[Cpt slay a ho]

See, you're touching on another way to improve the WR position here besides using draft picks.

 

Creativity.

 

Now study the league and come up with a few WR that want out of town and also fit our offense.

 

There's also WRs that can be restricted free agents next off-season. Study them and make decisions about the cap to fit them in.

 

BTW, June 1st is coming up. Might be somebody there we can use.

 

Cuts will be coming up before, during, and after training camp.

 

Players will get hurt and because they will miss the first weeks or half the season, be released.

 

Also, signing a vet AFTER the first game means his contract isn't guaranteed for the rest of the season, helping the cap.

 

Bottom line, so many ways to change the roster are still to come it's asinine to start despairing because you don't like the way a position looks at this particular moment.

 

Cheer up, fellow Panther fan. More sunshine ahead than darkness.

 

this, and i like to add that im pretty optimistic OF COURSE i want smitty starting as many games as he can until he retires so he can squeeze into the hall of fame, but at the same time we really won't know what we have at wr until smitty is gone  or unless they line him up in the slot. i also recall smitty saying it wasn't wr play that lacked it was o line play but idk can't see whats going on in the secondary.

 

[rayzor]

everybody saying we should not have reached for a WR this year, do yall realize that the chance of that happening next year are greater? with more holes on the roster. i personally do not believe in reaching, and you take your guy at your pick.

 

teams get into trouble by not staying true to the facts(game tape, interviews, work outs) this makes prospects look better then what they are.

this. its pushing back the inevitable...we need to start building a WR corps that is the future of the club. right now we don't have anyone but smitty signed after this year. if we push it back to next year we become more desperate and more forced to settle or reach for someone to fill those holes/deficencies. 

 

when is it best to shop? when you're just a little hungry and know you'll be a lot hungrier later? or when you're starving? 

 

and selecting a good WR this year wouldn't necessarily mean not taking one next year. i mean we could have gone DT first and WR/TE second this year and then WR  first and DT second this year and tried creating some balance between the D and O.

[O-Ther]

this, and i like to add that im pretty optimistic OF COURSE i want smitty starting as many games as he can until he retires so he can squeeze into the hall of fame, but at the same time we really won't know what we have at wr until smitty is gone  or unless they line him up in the slot. i also recall smitty saying it wasn't wr play that lacked it was o line play but idk can't see whats going on in the secondary.

 

You're touching on my point. We don't know.

 

Many possible ways the roster can change between now and start of season.

 

[Gin and Juice]

I don't think that they understand that Lafell, Hixon, and Ginn, you can add Gettis and Armanti for what it's worth but all of those guys are FAs at the end of the season.

Again Steve Smith is 34 and Gross on the decline. Arguably the two most important positions outside of qb for the offense and nothing was done to prepare for their departure.

Lafell will never be a #1 so why do you guys want to wait until Steve Smith retires to fill his shoes?

Great teams stay great by never rebuilding. They draft and groom. You guys want to draft and plug.

I sure hope that AJ Green or Megatrom shows up in a draft again soon because if Smitty goes down this year or retires our WR corps goes from B- to F

I feel you bro, don't think I don't! And drafting a WR would have been a plug! Better uses for that pick 44 and we used it! Point blank, Hurney put us behind the eight ball with shitty drafting and bad cap management! Gonna take more than one offseason for the best of GMs

[iamhubby1]

Hold up, now.  Are you saying Lafell is a pro bowl level talent?

Come on now. NO ONE is calling Lafell all pro. I said he was a SOLID #2WR. With more targets, he would get more respect. I, and a few others, feel he has had a very good last two years.

He will be resigned, and have a very good career. Moose lite so to speak.

Do we need an eventual replacement for Smitty? Of course. The debate stems from the time frame for this to happen. Some want it now. Some can wait until this all plays out.

[iamhubby1]

Excuse me from wanting more out of a 7-9 team with Cam Newton as their qb.

Lafell doesn't get targeted because Lafell isn't open. Only time you see Lafell racking up yards it's usually a blown coverage. He isn't beating anybody.

We all want what's best for Cam. The debate is on how we go about doing so.

I have seen plenty of times that Lafell would be open, and still not get a target. So I don't buy that his targets are limited by his route running.

I just don't see the big reason for the Lafell underrating. 44rec, almost 700 yards, 4TD from your #3 option. I don't see the deal. 15 and a half yards a reception to boot.

Is it because he isn't the fastest guy? Is that a big enough deal to knock on him? Reliable and dependable. Knows his job, and does it pretty well. But that won't change anyones mind, but it is fun stating the case.

Now if we do, sadly, have a bad year at WR, I would be less hesitant to change. I just happen to see us picking right up where we left off last year. So we can wait until the right guy comes along.

[DaCityKats]

And do you keep throwing good money at bad investments? No. You switch to something else that has a better chance of being a good investment.

Learn from those past picks. WR is a really tricky position to draft. Would rather sign some established talent, which I hope is Gettleman's plan for next off-season.

Then you are no longer building thru the draft which is what you stated your plan was. You still have to invest picks into positions,and all that established talent has shown is they can be no better a #3 WR.

[Growl]

Beyond 89 we don't have a WR one the roster that consistently gets separation, especially from above average CBs. That's the sad truth. I understand route running and understanding of coverages and how a WR is supposed to utilize that knowledge is too advanced a concept for some people to understand (i don't mean this rudely, it's a simple truth that has become incredibly apparent this offseason) and look only at the numbers, but frankly, our inability to field any player that could draw additional attention has been a killer for us. That has been just as responsible for our backfield woes just as much as poor OL play and Cam's development.

Step your game up this year, JoJo. I know your watching. It ain't trashtalk. It's a challenge.

[CRA]

When the 3rd WR taken had 1 100 yd game at D1.....hard to call it strong.

It was called weak (at the top) by most experts.

Weak at the top...doesn't equal weak class. It was a very good WR class. Weak at the top basically means no physical freak show.

Was viewed by most experts as a very good WR and S class....

[CRA]

Do we need an eventual replacement for Smitty? Of course. The debate stems from the time frame for this to happen. Some want it now. Some can wait until this all plays out.

We have needed an eventual replacement for Smith....now we are just playing with fire. Smitty is gonna be Donald Driver with an attitude any day now...

[PantherFeez]

100% completely OT: an inferior site was revisiting last year's week 1 vs the Bucs. Man.. this gif... Really -- screw the WR talk right now and hope this crap doesn't happen anymore. LT, LG & C all whiff on blocks and the RG gets man handled to the ground... behold as our UDFA signee Byron Bell is the only linemen making his block