Gettlemen continues to get criticism for not bringing in a WR

[jarhead]

Lets take the RBs off the table for these talks...you mean if needs more than a WR that could easily retire after this year, 2 castoff WR rentals, and Brandon LaFell?

And a solid TE.

Meanwhile, guys like Peyton Mannning grew up throwing to super studs.

 

I think you have a valid argument with respect to bringing in a guy to replace Smitty. With regards to your second point, Cam Newton is not Payton Manning . They are not even similar therefore the offensive schemes  and supporting cast should be different. The supporting staff for Manning should look much different than Cams with his experience in the league .Payton is one of the best at multiple reads and a quick release therefore you can leverage multiple WRs, I think Cam needs mismatches such as a TE can present plus Cam thrives in schemes that gives the ability to take off and multiple TEs are much more suited for that.They also give him big physical targets. 

[Matthias]

4 straight postseasons....at least they go to the dance and have a shot

 

We could have been in the dance last year, if we only used the weapons we have and would have stopped the crazy playcalling.

[King Taharqa]

I agree with CRA. We are doing Cam a disservice by only giving him Jake's old parts to work with. His best receiver is still an old Steve Smith and he's a better more durable RB at this point than the ones who carry the ball all the time for him. I expect our defense to be more consistent in 2013, but the offense is gonna take a step back. And guess who will get the majority of the blame for it? It still feels like LeBron in Cleveland.

[CRA]

I think you have a valid argument with respect to bringing in a guy to replace Smitty. With regards to your second point, Cam Newton is not Payton Manning . They are not even similar therefore the offensive schemes and supporting cast should be different. The supporting staff for Manning should look much different than Cams with his experience in the league .Payton is one of the best at multiple reads and a quick release therefore you can leverage multiple WRs, I think Cam needs mismatches such as a TE can present plus Cam thrives in schemes that gives the ability to take off and multiple TEs are much more suited for that.They also give him big physical targets.

Cam is a big armed gunslinger in a verical pass O.....with no legit deep threat and spotty OL play. He is entering his 3rd year....

Something is wrong there. Fair odds his LT and WR could be gone as soon as next season as well

[rayzor]

Matt Ryan throws to three superstar cats every season, how many rings he got?

how many years in a row with a winning season? .....  and then compared to us?

 

how long did it take him to get to the playoffs?..... and then compared to us?

 

how many trips has he had to the playoffs? ....and then compared to us?

 

how much closer are they to getting a ring than us?

 

how many winning seasons have we had since they drafted ryan...and then started building the offense around him?

 

until we can pull off even one winning season, we can't knock what they've done. what they have done has made them one of the most successful teams in the league....perrinial playoff contenders. what we have done has resulted in losing season after losing season after losing season.

 

i hope it changes this year, but i know that i can't argue with their success and it's put them a whole lot closer to getting that ring than anything we've done. crap....we've never even had two winning seasons in a row, much less two consecutive playoff trips.  they keep heading to the playoffs. they havent missed a year since ryan came in the league. 

 

what they are doing works....at least works a whole lot better than anything we've done. you can't argue results.

[Matthias]

I agree to disagree that Cam's a gunslinger.  Hixon has deepthreat capability, and Tolbert is good catching out of the backfield.  Cam has all the weapons he needs to get the job done.  Would I have liked to draft a receiver?  You bet!  In fact we pretty much wasted our last three picks altogether.  However, as far as weapons go, I believe we have more than enough to get the job done.

[jarhead]

I agree with CRA. We are doing Cam a disservice by only giving him Jake's old parts to work with. His best receiver is still an old Steve Smith and he's a better more durable RB at this point than the ones who carry the ball all the time for him. I expect our defense to be more consistent in 2013, but the offense is gonna take a step back. And guess who will get the majority of the blame for it? It still feels like LeBron in Cleveland.

 Our losses last year had very little to do with the WR position so what makes you think that is our Achilles heal this year.To me a OG,OT, and another TE would help Cam far more than a WR unless that guy is Calvin Johnson. 

[FreeArmanti]

It depends on if you think Short is going to become a better DT than Keenan is WR.

I know Allen isn't the fastest guy and had his knee problem, but I'm definitely going to be checking in on a few chargers games this year to see what he's doing.

There was no WR worth taking at 14 over Star, that pick was fine by me. But we resigned Dwan so the Short pick was for rotation and depth purposes and to limit Star's snaps. I would have been alot more mad if we passed on hunter, Hopkins or patterson in the second but they were all gone.

We didn't have the money for any big name WR FA so that part i understand too. Hixon is more than capable of fighting with Lafell for that 2nd receiver position if healthy. But both Hixon and Lafell are better suited for the slot and as a third option IMO.

Other than drafteing Allen, Williams or Bailey there really wasn't a whole lot of options for Gman. I do like the Hixon and Ginn signings since he had limited money to work with, but for the love of god can we please get a WR next year for Cam and even Smitty's sake!

[Louie]

We need a 2nd TE way more than another WR.

Cam was better in 2 TE sets when we had Shockey. I think this offense misses a good second TE than people realize, including  Gettleman.

[Matthias]

how many years in a row with a winning season? .....  and then compared to us?

 

how long did it take him to get to the playoffs?..... and then compared to us?

 

how many trips has he had to the playoffs? ....and then compared to us?

 

how much closer are they to getting a ring than us?

 

how many winning seasons have we had since they drafted ryan...and then started building the offense around him?

 

until we can pull off even one winning season, we can't knock what they've done. what they have done has made them one of the most successful teams in the league....perrinial playoff contenders. what we have done has resulted in losing season after losing season after losing season.

 

i hope it changes this year, but i know that i can't argue with their success and it's put them a whole lot closer to getting that ring than anything we've done. crap....we've never even had two winning seasons in a row, much less two consecutive playoff trips.  they keep heading to the playoffs. they havent missed a year since ryan came in the league. 

 

what they are doing works....at least works a whole lot better than anything we've done. you can't argue results.

 

How many times I've been on here talking about how dumb this coaching staff have been with the playcalling?  Playcalling, and playcalling alone has kept this team back, not the weapons we have or don't have.  I could go on and on about this coaching staff, and I have in the past.  (Kuechly being off the field for 75% of the defensive snaps and not starting in the middle from the beginning.  The disastrous read option conundrum.  Finally, literally giving away games because of stupid secondary alignments)

 

It's these reasons alone, we weren't in the playoffs last year. (We would have been in the playoffs in Cam's rookie season, if it weren't for our defense.  With all our linebackers getting hurt and so on.)

[SCP]

I was listening today to Jamie Dukes and Eric Davis still criticizing the Panthers for not bringing in a WR.

My take is we had to make choices in the 1st round...... and I agree with the pick of Star.I guess the question is was there a guy in the 2nd round that would have supplanted LeFell ?

We brought in Hixon and Ginn albeit as a KR. The choice of Star and Short in theory will help all 3 levels of our defense. A project WR has the potential to help one position.

[PantherFeez]

I agree with CRA. We are doing Cam a disservice by only giving him Jake's old parts to work with. His best receiver is still an old Steve Smith and he's a better more durable RB at this point than the ones who carry the ball all the time for him. I expect our defense to be more consistent in 2013, but the offense is gonna take a step back. And guess who will get the majority of the blame for it? It still feels like LeBron in Cleveland.

 

Getts came in with $11 Mil in the red and 5 draft picks in a draft with 0 top tier WR talent. In our situation, what other choices do we have? We have wayyy too many of these late round WR projects to warrant adding another one from this year's draft. What we need is top shelf, not scraps in the hopes they pan out.

[King Taharqa]

 Our losses last year had very little to do with the WR position so what makes you think that is our Achilles heal this year.To me a OG,OT, and another TE would help Cam far more than a WR unless that guy is Calvin Johnson. 

 

Our losses had A LOT to do with the WR position. Our best WR went over half the season before he found the end zone. Our pass catching TE is good, but has games where he isnt a factor. The fact our receivers dont consistently get seperation is a big problem. The fact our O Line is bottom tier is a big problem. There's nobody on our O outside of our QB that keeps a defense up late at night worried. If we cant dictate ballgames with our offense than we're gonna lose most games because our defense is NOT opportunistic enough week to week to put up points to counter that. If we had an ability to score more and score in GUT CHECK situations we wouldnt blow as many 2nd half leads either. But once defenses clamp down on our guys the offense stalls. We need more PLAYMAKERS.

[JawnyBlaze]

The only two guys that would have started over Lafell in this draft were gone before our 2nd round pick.  There's no way in hell we were taking a WR from this top anemic WR class over Star.  "Their guy" at WR wasn't there, that's why they took their actual guy.  Who plays DT.  It's as simple as that.  Do we need a successor to Smitty soon?  Of course.  Was it critical that it happen this year?  No.  This wasn't to be the year that happened.  Can't force picks when the talent isn't there.

 

Dropping $10mil a year on a FA WR wasn't the answer either.  That wouldn't be doing Cam or the team any favors.  Sure he might have a new WR, but when it comes time to give Cam his money, or his linemen, or his defense that gets him on the field quicker, or his ST that gives him shorter fields....where's the money going to come from?  That's basically what Hurney did in giving him two high priced, good RBs to keep the pressure off him.  Those contracts are (rightfully) disparaged.  For the money they got, signing Jennings or Wallace or trading for Harvin and then signing him would be the same idea.  We'll worry about Smitty's heir next year, when someone on the squad might step up or a WR who actually has the potential to be a starter and is Gettleman's BPA is available when we pick.  Or maybe we're able to pick up a guy in FA next year, one whose contract won't cripple our already limping cap.