Gettlemen continues to get criticism for not bringing in a WR

[MadHatter]

32 GMs in the league I'm willing to bet at least 20 would have made a different pick it is all about difference of opinions. Just because Star was a great pick doesn't mean a player like Hopkins wouldn't have been.

We could have drafted Mark Barron last year and won a few more games with him on the field over Nak if Beason stayed healthy. You just never really know what's going to happen.

It's easy to speculate what is a good pick and what is a bad pick but you don't know until the games are played.

Sorry, but I think you are off base on this one.

With our DT's, I would imagine that any would have taken either Star or Floyd at 14.

Taking Hopkins over them would be beyond nuts.

[rayzor]

the main point is, that until we can bring in something more than JAGs to the WR corps to either compliment Smitty or replace him, we will be limited as to what we can do on offense.

 

We can be good as-is.  We can be the best. why not try to be the best?

 

my opinion....we should be getting someone now that is an appropriate compliment to Smitty who will demand double teams and them when Smith does retire pick up another WR to try and make up for the loss in production.

 

and we should bring in another pass catching TE as well.

 

i don't care about the number of limited opportunities/targets. i care about giving cam the best receiving choices possible and making sure that WR is as well taken care of as RB, QB, LB, and now the DL.

[MadHatter]

the main point is, that until we can bring in something more than JAGs to the WR corps to either compliment Smitty or replace him, we will be limited as to what we can do on offense.

We can be good as-is. We can be the best. why not try to be the best?

my opinion....we should be getting someone now that is an appropriate compliment to Smitty who will demand double teams and them when Smith does retire pick up another WR to try and make up for the loss in production.

and we should bring in another pass catching TE as well.

i don't care about the number of limited opportunities/targets. i care about giving cam the best receiving choices possible and making sure that WR is as well taken care of as RB, QB, LB, and now the DL.

I completely get your point and would also live to have a bookend like Hopkins or Hunter. But, I would in no way have passed over star with our shirty DT's to take them.

[rayzor]

I completely get your point and would also live to have a bookend like Hopkins or Hunter. But, I would in no way have passed over star with our shirty DT's to take them.

 

star was a no-brainer, esp. for us.

 

short made sense, but we could have gone other directions and benefited as well.

 

regardless of what we did in the draft, tho, the WR position isn't as strong as it should be and not nearly as strong as it needs to be going forward if we are to be truly dominant.

 

we have to do something more than what we have. we have to find a way to address it better and we have to have a sense of urgency in addressing it. it has to be more of a priority than what it's been.

[CRA]

Sorry, but I think you are off base on this one.

With our DT's, I would imagine that any would have taken either Star or Floyd at 14.

Taking Hopkins over them would be beyond nuts.

If it was beyond nuts Carolina wouldn't of looked at all those WRs.

Also, Star and Floyd weren't drafted as the media assumed. Both fell...if we hasn't drafted by us, Star and Floyd could of both been selected in the 20s which is where Hopkins went.

I like both our DTs....just wish we didn't double up. Too many other holes.

[DaCityKats]

i really think Gettleman went into the draft wanting to take Short at 44 no matter what happened in the 1st.

[jarhead]

i really think Gettleman went into the draft wanting to take Short at 44 no matter what happened in the 1st.

 

 

I agree....I think they thought he would be off the board.Do you think they would have taken Tavon if he would have been there?

[DaCityKats]

I agree....I think they thought he would be off the board.Do you think they would have taken Tavon if he would have been there?

 

yeah or Eifert or Hopkins. i think he made his mind up before the draft and said if KK is there in the 2nd, im taking him.really dont know how i feel about that, but i will wait and see.

[DaCityKats]

If it was beyond nuts Carolina wouldn't of looked at all those WRs.

Also, Star and Floyd weren't drafted as the media assumed. Both fell...if we hasn't drafted by us, Star and Floyd could of both been selected in the 20s which is where Hopkins went.

I like both our DTs....just wish we didn't double up. Too many other holes.

 

the double up move is also something im not a fan of. especially when used on back to back picks. i wonder the success rate with drafting  the same positions back to back. only 1 i can think of is ed dickson and dennis pitta, but one can make the argument that pitta has out played dickerson.

 

[La Pantera]

Yeah I think KK was the target at #44. And when Star Fell it was a no brainer. I was on the WR in the 1st-2nd bandwagon. But there's no way you pass on Star at #14 and the "top tier" WRs were gone at #44. WR is a HUGE need next season. We need to do whatever it takes to get a game changing WR.

[TheRed]

the main point is, that until we can bring in something more than JAGs to the WR corps to either compliment Smitty or replace him, we will be limited as to what we can do on offense.

We can be good as-is. We can be the best. why not try to be the best?

my opinion....we should be getting someone now that is an appropriate compliment to Smitty who will demand double teams and them when Smith does retire pick up another WR to try and make up for the loss in production.

and we should bring in another pass catching TE as well.

i don't care about the number of limited opportunities/targets. i care about giving cam the best receiving choices possible and making sure that WR is as well taken care of as RB, QB, LB, and now the DL.

We weren't going to find that kind of threat in this years weak wide receiver class outside of maybe Tavon Austin who was gone before we picked anyway.

I wanted Mike Wallace, but it just wasn't realistic for us and our circumstances.

What would've been your immediate long term solution to it this year, while also accounting for the eventual retirement of Smitty?

There's no reason we can't get another legit TE, and I'm not talking about feel good training camp stories.

[AceBoogie]

We weren't going to find that kind of threat in this years weak wide receiver class outside of maybe Tavon Austin who was gone before we picked anyway.

I wanted Mike Wallace, but it just wasn't realistic for us and our circumstances.

What would've been your immediate long term solution to it this year, while also accounting for the eventual retirement of Smitty?

There's no reason we can't get another legit TE, and I'm not talking about feel good training camp stories.

Again weak class according to whom? Certainly not NFL GMS. 2011 was considered a strong WR class with 4 WRs taken within the first 44 picks and 28 total WRs taken.

2013 you say was weak but their were 5 WRs taken within the first 44 picks and 28 overall.

So what makes it a weak class?

[TheRed]

Again weak class according to whom? Certainly not NFL GMS. 2011 was considered a strong WR class with 4 WRs taken within the first 44 picks and 28 total WRs taken.

2013 you say was weak but their were 5 WRs taken within the first 44 picks and 28 overall.

So what makes it a weak class?

Your argument for it being a strong receiver class is the fact that they got drafted? We worked out like eight wide receivers and ended up not even drafting one at all. Does that not tell you something given our need?

How many of those WR's were legitimate #1 threats in your opinion?

[AceBoogie]

Your argument for it being a strong receiver class is the fact that they got drafted? We worked out like eight wide receivers and ended up not even drafting one at all. Does that not tell you something given our need?

How many of those WR's were legitimate #1 threats in your opinion?

My argument is that if it was thought to be a weak class they wouldn't have been drafted so high and often. I can't tell you which will be a #1 if any.

I can't tell you that Star will go to multiple pro bowls but as a fan of the team I hope he's great. I can only tell you what I would have done in that situation and that's draft DeAndre Hopkins in the first and Short in the second.

I honestly think that DeAndre out of all the others will eventually be a #1 WR. I also think Star will be great for us. When I see we were 14th against the run and had the 16th ranked passing offense then I'm choosing to change our passing game.

Cam is going into his 3rd year with a 34 year old WR and the next 3 WRs on the depth chart have expiring contracts. Where is the young talent that your young qb can grow with.

I'll say it again you don't put rent n roll tires on a Lamborghini.