How to improve the slow start....

[Kevin Greene]

Coach better.

[Udogg]

It's simple...Turnovers.

 

We need to get them and not give them.

 

 

[L-TownCat]

I know teams protect these players at the slightest hint of an injury in TC.  I say survival of the fittest, let those that are going to get injured out of the way so the guy behind them has a chance to get his reps in.  Go balls out at every practice, meeting, and walk through.  Treat this season as US against the World.  Pull every negative article ever written about this team and bring in motivational guys like Minter and Kasay to pep the team up on game days.

 

 

 

oh and we need to be loud and present at the games as well.

[AceBoogie]

It all starts with coaching I remember last season Rivera said something about not panicking or making any changes until week 8 or 9. He didn't seem to me that he was coaching with any urgency.

The first part of last season it seemed like he was still trying players out and wasnt sure about the roster. He needs to have this roster set and get the first team some reps together.

Urgency is the key and he has to show it.

[CRA]

It all starts with coaching I remember last season Rivera said something about not panicking or making any changes until week 8 or 9. He didn't seem to me that he was coaching with any urgency.

The first part of last season it seemed like he was still trying players out and wasnt sure about the roster. He needs to have this roster set and get the first team some reps together.

Urgency is the key and he has to show it.

Well when you don't have starter caliber players at several positions....you can't yank people after one bad game or it is a never ending cycle.

[rayzor]

I think Chip Kelly is going to struggle transitioning his practices over to the NFL..,,,a lot of what he did in college just won't work in the NFL

 

 

Yeah, harder to do with 53 than with 80+.

both of you guys missed the point. i said use him as the example, not duplicate what he does. he's altering his stuff at the pro level. he's already done it, but he's still raising the bar of expectations in practice from his players and making better and more efficient use of their time...which is what i was saying to do.

 

use his program as an inspiration on how to make better use of their time in the class room and on the field in practice. more reps. faster pace. expect more....get more.

[CRA]

both of you guys missed the point. i said use him as the example, not duplicate what he does. he's altering his stuff at the pro level. he's already done it, but he's still raising the bar of expectations in practice from his players and making better and more efficient use of their time...which is what i was saying to do.

use his program as an inspiration on how to make better use of their time in the class room and on the field in practice. more reps. faster pace. expect more....get more.

Kelly hast had a NFL practice yet...

Fox ran tough camps. His teams also seemed to e sluggish early

[rayzor]

It all starts with coaching I remember last season Rivera said something about not panicking or making any changes until week 8 or 9. He didn't seem to me that he was coaching with any urgency.

The first part of last season it seemed like he was still trying players out and wasnt sure about the roster. He needs to have this roster set and get the first team some reps together.

Urgency is the key and he has to show it.

 

when you start out the season with a 1-4 record...sorry, it's time to change what you do. gets any worse than that and it's time to panic.

 

you've got to get to a point where you self-evaluate quicker, find out what isn't working and go in a different direction. when you lose 3 straight, there's your sign.

 

early in the season isn't a time to try out stuff. it's not time to be trying out players. it's the time to be winning games, because if you aren't winning, you're losing. there is no middle ground. pre-season doesn't last until the 3rd or 4th week of the regular season.

 

decide who you want to start before heading into camp and let them get their reps together. let the rest of training camp be finding out who will fill depth positions and getting everyone totally familiar to the playbook and their role and give them tons of reps together. use pre-season games to try out players if you need. use pre-season to try out nuances in strategy and make sure you've got a finished product when the season starts.

[rayzor]

Kelly hast had a NFL practice yet...

Fox ran tough camps. His teams also seemed to e sluggish early

 

 

The Philadelphia Eagles got their first taste of Kelly's practice approach during mini-camp last week, and needless to say, it was a shift away from anything they experienced under Andy Reid.

 

 

"It's different," tight end Brent Celek told reporters. "You're so used to Coach Reid for so long. Even growing up, I saw Coach Reid as a figure of Philadelphia. But things change, and I love what Coach Kelly has brought here so far."

 

 

The way Birds running back LeSean McCoy described those early practices, Kelly hasn't left anything back in Eugene, Ore., as far as his practice approach is concerned.

 

 

 

"I think we'll be in the best shape in the league for sure," McCoy told reporters. "Just the fast pace. There's never a time when we're breaking. We hustle to working out, lifting weights, everything. Even the meetings are fast."

 

Speed and efficiency were two of Kelly's signatures at Oregon, and they were most recognizable when the Ducks had the ball. Because playing fast isn't simply about having fast players, Kelly changed the way the Ducks called plays, using signage and signals and doing away with the cumbersome verbiage quarterbacks typically use to call plays in the huddle (Kelly did away with huddles, too).

 

So the Ducks developed one-word plays that signify everything from formation to snap count, making their hurry-up offense move that much faster. We don't have to wait until the fall to find out whether it can work at the NFL level; the New England Patriots used the approach for their no-huddle offense last season. Pats coach Bill Belichick picked Kelly's brain and implemented much of what the former Ducks coach was doing at Oregon.

 

"I would say he expanded it to a different level and it was very interesting to understand what he was doing. Certainly I've learned a lot from talking to Chip about his experiences with it and how he does it and his procedure and all that," Belichick told the Boston Globe in October (check out the article for more insight into Kelly's play-calling method; it's pretty interesting stuff).

 

Celek was blown away last week by the bits he learned, telling reporters that "it's insane."

 

"From a communication standpoint, it's going to change the game," Celek said. "Just the way they can communicate plays and get us into stuff that's pretty cool. It's something I never even thought was possible in the NFL. He has a reason why each play is called what it is. And it all makes sense."

 

We'll see, of course, whether the tempo and efficiency translate to NFL victories in Philly. But in the meantime, the Eagles seem to be embracing Kelly's philosophies and the changes that he's brought to town, so from that standpoint, at least, the Chip Kelly era is off to a good start.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-eagles-off-fast-start-under-chip-kelly-125100615--nfl.html

 

 

[Scrumtrilescent]

I think the playcalling speed and protocol has a good chance of sticking, being effective, and being adopted by other teams.  I'm just not so sure about his 100% all the time at practice will continue to be welcomed with open arms by the players.  I can see them mutinying as much as fully adopting it.  It would be a boon to efficiency, but time will tell. 

[rayzor]

I think the playcalling speed and protocol has a good chance of sticking, being effective, and being adopted by other teams.  I'm just not so sure about his 100% all the time at practice will continue to be welcomed with open arms by the players.  I can see them mutinying as much as fully adopting it.  It would be a boon to efficiency, but time will tell. 

 

if they want to win, they'll appreciate it. once they see the results on the field, they'll appreciate it more.

 

of course the 10+ year vets are going to be groaning and trying to get out of it. same with the lazier players out there. it's a change to their world that requires more work. it's not fun, but it needs to happen if you are going to expect success and excellence from yourself and your team.

 

those who really want it and haven't grown complacent will adapt and buy into it. those who don't would probably be hitting the streets the next year looking for some one year deal well below what they thought they'd be getting and/or winding up with some team that sets the bar really low.

[csx]

I think just having Mike Shula as the coordinator will fix our slow start issues :)

[CRA]

I think the playcalling speed and protocol has a good chance of sticking, being effective, and being adopted by other teams.  I'm just not so sure about his 100% all the time at practice will continue to be welcomed with open arms by the players.  I can see them mutinying as much as fully adopting it.  It would be a boon to efficiency, but time will tell. 

he doesn't have the bodies at the NFL to do what he did in college.

 

I think Chip is going to have a rough transition personally.  Steve Spurrier IMO is one of the greatest college football guys in the business....the stories are hilarious about his first couple practices in the NFL

[MrPickles]

Kelly runs as many reps in practice as he can and saves the coaching for the film room. Why won't that work?