Anyone catch Smitty this afternoon?

[tiger7_88]

If you want to use examples, how about Vick and RG3 then? Just because Young was fortunate enough to avoid torn ACLs and concussions doesn't mean Cam will. Get that through your thick head. If Newton goes down on a run-designed play, then our season is lost and the fanbase will erupt in volcanic rage, and question the coaching staff for a bone-headed maneuver.

Seriously? After two years of running the ball and running it well and the fanbase loving the hell out of it, you think the fanbase would be furious if Cam got hurt running the ball?

Ummmmm... no. You meant to say "Promethean Forerunner" would be furious, not "the fanbase".

[CRA]

If you want to use examples, how about Vick and RG3 then? Just because Young was fortunate enough to avoid torn ACLs and concussions doesn't mean Cam will. Get that through your thick head. If Newton goes down on a run-designed play, then our season is lost and the fanbase will erupt in volcanic rage, and question the coaching staff for a bone-headed maneuver.

Neither of them are built to be outside the pocket....that matters. But more importantly, most of their injuries have occurred as passer, in the pocket.

Our season is over if a poo G lets a defender through and they take out Newton's knee. Which seemed to be a legit risk every other play last year. At least as a runner, Cam can make a choice to engage in contact and he never does except in short yardage.

It's football. Poo happens. Cam has taken the most shots while in the pocket....not running. Coaches have been sure to point that out. RGIII popped his knee in the pocket. Vick gets knocked out of games all the time....in the pocket.

The Vick comparisons and RGIII comparisons just don't work....too many differences.

[TheRumGone]

Them the front office will need to start showing it soon IMO.

Ted Ginn's, Murphy's, 1 yr Shockey rentals, Murphy's, and long term developmental lineman isn't really showing it

Long-term Developmental lineman? I think they will have an instant impact. And make our team better from the get-go. I agree we need to support Cam. And it sucks that He was left with this mess. If after next year's draft, FA we haven't given Cam help, I will rage with you.

Edit: the guard, get it. We'll see how that plays out.

[thunderraiden]

all I am saying is you draft 2 early DTs....NFL history shows odds aren't good you hit on 2 at that spot.

I think we've missed our fair share these last 10 years.

[DaCityKats]

DaCityKats, meet Bill Clinton.

Bill?... DaCityKats.

;)

morals man, morals.

[CRA]

No, there are no differences, just typical BS. If you want a more 'accurate' comparison, how's Big Ben doing these last couple of years? The Steelers drafted a QB this year because Big Ben seems to be hobbling into the playoffs every season nowadays.

You're right poo happens. We'll see if you feel that way when we're in the market for a protege five years from now because Cam's body can't withstand 16 games a season anymore.

Let me get this straight, I would hate to misquote you.....you are saying three are no differences between Cam, Vick and RGIII

There no comparison to Cam. Big Ben gets beat up in the pocket....if he could run like Cam away from the abuse and make multiple types of plays..his health would likely be better.

[tiger7_88]

Yes, because the Huddle is such a logical place. This coming from posters who praised G-Man when he was first hired and then turned on him immediately after the draft.

What the hell are you talking about? I love this draft.

[Way Truth Life]

As long as there is a DB plan....I'm ok with strengthening the DTs.....the OL needs were addressed a little....the RB part baffles me...but if he is the runner they claim and the best position player in the 6th round...then so be it

[Gabeking]

I also try to let my bias be known...and Gettlemen never rubbed me right so I can admit I probably haven't done my homework on him like I do pieces of our franchise I an enthusiastic about. I kind of immediately have put him in the "not sure about this guy" category the moment I felt he was not "all in" on Cam.

From when he was first hired:

"There are a lot of great things in place here. You've got great ownership, a great young quarterback, a solid young head coach and plenty of other things to go along with it. I know some of the people in the personnel department that I’m excited to work with. It’s a good nucleus to begin with."

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Gettleman-named-general-manager/0a0364a9-d7fa-4c6e-a7d8-9c40dc02131e

[nickzz]

it seems promethean forerunner is backed into a corner and is literally shitting out words to post

[AceBoogie]

Them the front office will need to start showing it soon IMO.

Ted Ginn's, Murphy's, 1 yr Shockey rentals, Murphy's, and long term developmental lineman isn't really showing it

Amen

[rayzor]

From when he was first hired:

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Gettleman-named-general-manager/0a0364a9-d7fa-4c6e-a7d8-9c40dc02131e

yeah it's obvious that gettleman isn't "all in" on cam. smh.

he's a fan.

[rayzor]

When he said QBs don't run....something to that affect.

i think that was more of a knee jerk defensive reaction on your part.

i do think he wants to cut back the amount that cam runs, which is understandable. cutting it all out...nah.

here's what he said:

"Ten of the 12 teams in the playoffs this year had true pocket passers. At the end of the day, the quarterback has to make plays from the pocket. I think the read option is an option. But at the end of the day, your quarterback has got to make plays from the pocket, and if he can't, you're going to struggle."

now is that wrong?

he did say that was something that rivera would be making the call on and he also said that he wanted to see a downhill running game, a vertical offense, and play action. he also said that the read option would still be an option...just not the base. i just don't see the problem. the goal is to make cam more well rounded as a QB, which is something he wants to be, isn't it? didn't he want to not be labeled as a running QB?

i saw this quote from chud recently about newton...

“A lot of those things we actually worked through over the course of the two years,” Chudzinski said. “Going forward, the thing is how long can he keep running as he gets older and as he progresses in his career? It’s one thing to have a college guy doing it. But when a guy’s in his seventh year or eighth year, you want to have transitioned by that time.”

.

.

.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/03/19/3925943/panthers-cam-newton-will-eventually.html#storylink=cpy

.

.

.

“He wants to be a great quarterback. So labeling him a running quarterback – he wanted to be labeled as a great quarterback,” Chudzinski said. “He’s hungry. He works hard at it.

“I think he’s come a long way as a passer and his understanding of defenses. It’s amazing what he’s done to this point for a guy that really didn’t have much of a background in a passing offense.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/03/19/3925943/panthers-cam-newton-will-eventually.html#storylink=cpy

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/03/19/3925943/panthers-cam-newton-will-eventually.html

you look at the way cam has talked about his goals being a QB what gettleman is doing is trying to create a way for him to be that and win. it's not a desire to move on from cam or even necessarily limit him to just being a pocket passer anymore than some want to limit him to being a read option/running QB.

cam wants to be a complete dominant QB and he wants respect. he knows that it's going to come from his ability to be a good passer as well as all the other elements.

cam has to be able to win from the pocket. he has to develop that aspect even further than he has and you can tell from the work he's done that it is important to him. from his earliest interviews you can tell he wants to do what the great pocket passers can do. he wants to be great and respected as a pocket passer, but he doesn't want to be limited by it nor will he be. and he shouldn't be limited by being a running QB, nor does he want to be. he wants to do what the great pocket passers can do and more.

cutting back on the read option stuff isn't going to cut back on his ability to make things happen and exploit holes in defenses. cutting back on the amount of times he runs isn't a bad thing. it could open things up for when he runs. you make teams respect that arm and that passing game and they can't focus their efforts on him. it also takes a lot of pressure on him to spread the load of productivity to others and it cuts back on the chances he has of getting injured and/or wearing down. he's got other talented ball carriers and he's got several receivers that don't suck...why not use them more than his rushing ability? why should we be so focused on his ability to run the ball instead of just trying to create a well balanced team that can kill defenses three ways from tuesday?

it's no slight on cam. it's no disrespect. it's just trying to make the team the best it can be, not cam a superstar running QB.

[bigcatdaddy]

Richardson wouldn't have even approved the hire if Gettleman wasn't. Who the hell wouldn't want Cam?

Marc James wouldn't want Cam. I think he has this disdain for Cam and didn't think he would be good when we drafted him so he is trying to hang on to that so he isn't perceived as wrong. He blames Cam for our loses and always points back to Cam not having a winning record as a QB in the NFL, all of this while fawning over Luck and giving him full credit for all of the Colts wins. Same thing with RG3 and Andy Dalton he points to their "winning records" even though this is a team sport and there are 3 different sides of the ball and the QB is only 1 piece of that.