Yep, its Kenny Vaccaro

[Zod]

I will take great reaction time and instincts over a little bit faster.

Ask Sherrod.

[Growl]

Nope, he can do both NT and DE

Not at this level.

You stick him in the middle of a 3-4 and you're likely to find issues.

[Zod]

Says you. Professional NFL scouts say otherwise.

Lets leave it at that.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

For those that want Vaccarro over Cyprien, can I hear why. Not trying to be a smart a$$, but watching what's on the internet, Cyprien projects to be more Ed Reed/Brian Dawkins, and Vaccarro seems more well-rounded, but with less impact. Just curious....

Personally, I'm a little more comfortable with Vaccaro's ability to play well against top competition. Those offenses Texas saw were no joke. FIU on the other hand, I'm not sure he saw a lot outside of Bridgewater at Louisville (who he did play pretty well against).

[JawnyBlaze]

I don't care for Vaccaro. I'm not exactly big on Cyprien, but I'd probably rather get him at #14 than Vaccaro. I wouldn't hate the Vaccaro pick, but of all the players at #14 I wouldn't hate, he's the one I want least.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

I don't care for Vaccaro. I'm not exactly big on Cyprien, but I'd probably rather get him at #14 than Vaccaro. I wouldn't hate the Vaccaro pick, but of all the players at #14 I wouldn't hate, he's the one I want least.

Very political answer sir, kudos.

[CRA]

For those that want Vaccarro over Cyprien, can I hear why. Not trying to be a smart a$$, but watching what's on the internet, Cyprien projects to be more Ed Reed/Brian Dawkins, and Vaccarro seems more well-rounded, but with less impact. Just curious....

You don't think Vaccaro would stand out even more if he played full season against the competition Cyprien saw?

[Growl]

Says you. Professional NFL scouts say otherwise.

Lets leave it at that.

Please quote these scouts that say Star projects as a 3-4 NT at this level. I'll be waiting.

[Zod]

Please quote these scouts that say Star projects as a 3-4 NT at this level. I'll be waiting.

You should read the link I already posted first.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Please quote these scouts that say Star projects as a 3-4 NT at this level. I'll be waiting.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/star-lotulelei?id=2539329

"If he can show scouts that he has matured through his raising a family, and he is fully committed to football as a profession, it will be impossible to ignore his potential. Utah plays him at both nose tackle and defensive end, asking him to two-gap often. He will be coveted in both of those roles by NFL teams who run 3-4 defenses, although his combination of size, strength, and quickness make him a fit in almost any type of defensive system."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1801107/star-lotulelei

"Strong, heavy hands to control his opponent and possesses the upper and core strength to simply rag-doll offensive linemen. Possesses a thick, classic Polynesian build well suited to anchoring against the run, making him a natural candidate to play inside at nose guard or defensive tackle, as well as a five-technique defensive end."

[Zod]

Peter King also agrees and the Philly scouts think so... but you don't so they are wrong obviously.

http://sportsillustr...2&eref=sihp#all

4. Philadelphia. Eagles have been nutty about getting players who fit the 3-4. Hear they like Star Lotulelei a lot to play all along the line, even at nose.

[Toundra]

Safety?

Duke williams !

[firstdayfan]

What interests me is that Gettlemen mentioned DT and DB being the deepest positions in the draft. You think he takes the top player at the deepest position? Doesn't really make sense, unless we are on the clock and he is the best player on the board.

[JawnyBlaze]

In addition to the strength, strong hands, size, etc stuff Star is hands down the quickest DT I've ever seen off the snap. It's unreal, and it's something that's a HUGE benefit for his transition to the pros. We've seen plenty of DTs that are heavy enough, or strong enough, but if they're sluggish off the snap the OL has a chance to anchor and hold them off, or to get leverage quicker. Star's quickness off the snap allows him to shock OL, get leverage first and dictate where he wants to go. He's the most impressive DT prospect I've ever studied, even moreso than Suh.