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My source has told me...

Verge

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firstdayfan Enthusiast

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I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but how many Florida international games has everyone watched? Vaccaro is ranked anywhere between the top 10-15 players in the draft. Cyprien is pretty much a second/third rounder that had a good senior bowl. And I watched the entire senior bowl the other day again and he had a few good hits but nothing even remotely impressive but then again the QB play was so horrid in that game that it's hard to really make an accurate assessment.

My point? I like Cyprien but I'd rather go with a guy who has been steady on the draft boards than a guy who has been hyped up in the last few weeks. Vaccaro is not my top choice and I'd like to take a chance on Austin, Fluker, Warmack, or one of the DT's like sly or Richardson. But we could do a lot worse than vaccaro and a lot of scouts/draft gurus agree.

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Steve Smith is 20 pounds heavier than Austin. He was 10 punds heavier than him coming out of college too. Not to mention Austin doesn't have nearly as much Strength as Smith does, and is unlikely he can gain weight without losing speed.

So? Does that mean he can't play? I bet if you asked steve himself, if he thought Tavon was to small to play in the NFL, he'd probably just laugh.

Also adding 10lbs of muscle wont be hard to do nor will it slow him down. Still think its funny that Panther fans dislike a guy because he's "too small".

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Steve Smith is 20 pounds heavier than Austin. He was 10 punds heavier than him coming out of college too. Not to mention Austin doesn't have nearly as much Strength as Smith does, and is unlikely he can gain weight without losing speed.

talking out of your butt huh?

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Mark Carrier said it.

Twitter link inside of Huddle thread link here:

Thanks, I don't think I noticed that last year. Carrier's comment doesn't say Rivera wanted him, and I have to assume that the desire for Barron had to be Hurney's. Glad he's gone so we don't have anymore near misses like that.

However I do have to think it's kind of dubious that Carrier would even say that. Either he was drunk, stupid, or throwing out some misdirection or something. It doesn't make any sense to basically tell your newest player "you weren't our first choice, we wanted a Safety (of all positions) more than you".

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jfo89 Rising Star

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That we will take Tavon Austin if he is available, and if he is not Kenny Vacarro is a very good bet.

As some of you know my source tends to be very reliable and I generally only make one of these every year around draft time. Last year I was told that we were deciding between Coples and Kuechly, and that Bruce Irvin would go in the first.

Also some things he has told me:

DJ Hayden will go in the top 15

EJ Manuel will go in the first round

Matt Elam should be the second safety off the board

Keenan Allen will not go in the first, Justin Hunter should go ahead of him

The Panthers are looking at Arthur Brown/Quinton Patton/Robert Alfrod/Eric Reid/Jonathan Banks in the 2nd

Eddie Lacey probably won't drop to the 2nd

Just throwing some things out there for you guys.

He really thinks hayden will go in the top 15 after his injury??

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Verge, I hope this isn't too much, but I would love to hear your views on Austin, Vaccaro, Rhodes, Hayden and Patterson.

Austin - I think he is incredibly fast, can straight dominate at the WR spot, and honestly is someone we really have not seen at the position before. (Kind of like Cam in that way) Though if I had to compare him to someone it would be an odd hybrid of Percy Harvin and Wes Welker. His acceleration once he touches the ball is insane and is legitimately the fastest player I have seen on tape. I would love the pick even if he is a slot receiver/gadget player.

Vaccaro - I love Vaccaro a lot in our division, his big frame and quickness along with smooth hips allows him to cover Graham, Gonzales, Clark, etc, and his ability to get off the blocks and shoot into a hole makes him awesome in run support and that makes him a nice fit in our D. He is also a very solid open field tackler and he is big and fast enough to not get destroyed on the deep ball and is very aggressive in the pass game with 14 pass break ups over the past two years. He is obviously not perfect, he needs to improve on his back pedal, he needs to improve on vision, and he needs to improve his leverage. I believe he could be a key piece, and my money right now is on him winning DROTY

Hayden - I think he is the best pick available, he has super quick feet, he can jam a receiver at the line very easily, he closes incredibly fast, and he is a very solid tackler. I guarantee he will be a pro bowler/all pro within two years. He does not really even have a downside to his game, just the face he is only 5'11". I have serious doubts he will even drop to us.

I like Patterson a lot as well, reminds me of a young Donald Driver or Demaryius Thomas. He is a bit of a project but will be able to straight dominate if he develops properly.

I do not care much for Rhodes.

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talking out of your butt huh?

How am i talking out of my ass, friend?

Steve Smith is currently 198lbs, and was 184 coming out of Utah. He also Brench Pressed 22 times at the combine, and we all know how strong of a WR he is.

Tavon currently weighs in at 174 pounds, and only 14 reps at the combine. Due to these things may scouts question his durability in the NFL, and if he can be anything outside of a slot guy. Desean Jackson is 175, explosive? Yes. But his durability is not very good. Not to mention he probably can't bulk up too much without losing *some* speed. He's still going to be fast but he has a small frame honestly.

I'm not saying he'll be a bad WR in the NFL, he's gonna be a playmaker but I doubt he'll be too urable in nfl at sub 175 and using him in 3 different ways like any of you say (WR, HB and Returner, the latter two take the most hits in the NFL) and honestly? I'd much rather have someone who could line up wide.

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So? Does that mean he can't play? I bet if you asked steve himself, if he thought Tavon was to small to play in the NFL, he'd probably just laugh.

Also adding 10lbs of muscle wont be hard to do nor will it slow him down. Still think its funny that Panther fans dislike a guy because he's "too small".

I never ragged on his height, I mentioned his weight and durability.

Stedman Bailey is 5-10 and I'd *love* to see in a Panthers uniform. i honestly think he'll be a better overall WR than Austin.

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