Let's get this Party Started. How do we Beat Seattle?

[carolina-chuck]

I say we kill them Hawks in the opener!

Our defense will wreck havoc on Wilson and Cam unstoppable vs Hawks' D.

[h0llywood]

- The DT that we draft along with Dwan controls the ground game

- Hardy and Johnson applies constant pressure on Wilson

I have no worries about Cam and Co. putting up points but it will be the dominance up front on defense that will win this game.

[Kakarot]

Can't wait to see Hopkins, Allen, or Austin on the field wreaking shop against that Seattle secondary.

[hepcat]

It'll be a close game. Really all depends if Cam can make the play with the game on the line. Last year against Seattle, he didn't.

[rayzor]

i'm just glad it's not in seattle.

that place is a nightmare to play in.

[panthers55]

shula was in cam's ear on the sidelines...not on the field. i don't trust shula's playcalling and ability to make quick decisions.

and i take player's assessments of their own coaches and teammates with a grain of salt. i don't doubt cam and the others like shula. i don't doubt that they think he will do well, but they are working from a position of bias, just like everyone. I'm working from a position that i haven't seen success as a playcaller and OC from him. being good at being a QB coach and having your team believe in you doesn't make you a good OC. until i see results and see him bunk his history and track record,I'm not going to believe.

No actually Shula was the guy in Cam's mike while Cam was on the field not Chud.

And don't take this the wrong way but I take his assessment with a lot more credence than yours which I take with a very small grain of salt since you have no knowledge of the situation as all.

[Zod]

The QB coach typically does relay the play call to the QB. But saying that has helped him be a better OC is like saying relaying the order to the kitchen makes a waitress a better chef.

[rayzor]

No actually Shula was the guy in Cam's mike while Cam was on the field not Chud.

And don't take this the wrong way but I take his assessment with a lot more credence than yours which I take with a very small grain of salt since you have no knowledge of the situation as all.

that's fine. and i'll take mine until i see otherwise.

and who was calling the plays? shula or chud? who was running the offense? that wasn't shula, was it?

[panthers55]

The QB coach typically does relay the play call to the QB. But saying that has helped him be a better OC is like saying relaying the order to the kitchen makes a waitress a better chef.

Your example is ridiculously inadequate. What is closer to the truth is like saying that after you are an unsuccessful master chef, then go for 10 years working for several other master chefs learning all his techniques, then you are qualified to go out and get another shot at being a master chef yourself. Particularly at a restaurant that you have worked as an assistant chef for the past 2 years and were involved in every aspect of the operations. So when the master chef goes elsewhere, you are promoted.

[panthers55]

that's fine. and i'll take mine until i see otherwise.

and who was calling the plays? shula or chud? who was running the offense? that wasn't shula, was it?

Again I understand that Shula was relaying in the plays and was intimately involved in developing the game plan and what plays would be called. Can't do much more than that without being the OC.

[Zod]

Your example is ridiculously inadequate. What is closer to the truth is like saying that after you are an unsuccessful master chef, then go for 10 years working for several other master chefs learning all his techniques, then you are qualified to go out and get another shot at being a master chef yourself. Particularly at a restaurant that you have worked as an assistant chef for the past 2 years and were involved in every aspect of the operations. So when the master chef goes elsewhere, you are promoted.

Shula wasn't in the kitchen.

[Zod]

Again I understand that Shula was relaying in the plays and was intimately involved in developing the game plan and what plays would be called. Can't do much more than that without being the OC.

Initimately involved in game planning? Never heard a word of that until after he was promoted. Funny how it was never mentioned over the past 2 years.

[panthers55]

Shula wasn't in the kitchen.

Of course he was in all aspects of the kitchen operations. He didn't supervise the kitchen but saw how to do it at several restaurants. He was the main cook under the master cook's direction.

[rayzor]

Again I understand that Shula was relaying in the plays and was intimately involved in developing the game plan and what plays would be called. Can't do much more than that without being the OC.

deciding on the plays. one of the big criticisms that there was of shula back when he actually had the job was in the amount of time it took for him to get the play to the field. his decision making process was slow. unless you heard something i didn't, it was chud running the offense on game day. it was him deciding what to run.

i have heard the relaying of plays job before since you mentioned it, but as far as actually calling the plays....that was all chud.