Kiper on Panthers draft

[rayzor]

why the hell do the bucs need ANOTHER DT?

because they've got one that's going to jail for a few years.

[jarhead]

It didn't paste like I thought it would. Says that if Panthers can get a DT in first and S in second that Panthers will be, "off to the races." Says Richardson or Williams at 14.

Yea off like a herd of turtles.....give me some Tavon Austin and then we will be off to the races

[jarhead]

If we take Vaccaro at #14, I'm gonna stick my fist through a wall. No clue what people are seeing in this guy that makes them think he's going to be an elite NFL safety.

i will sob for weeks

[koolkatluke]

why the hell do the bucs need ANOTHER DT?

They lost Roy miller. He was the main cog in their run defense.

[Sloth]

Seeing as I could start at CB for the Bucs right now, I'm not seeing the high DT pick for them. I think that, barring the Revis trade going down, Rhodes is almost a lock to go to Tampa provided he's still on the board. Plus there is no way whatsoever Star escapes the top 10.

Richardson really strikes me as the diet-coke version of Nick Fairley and doesn't address a weakness. We were already generating a decent-to-good pass rush but couldn't stop carolina-chuck if he lined up at RB. No thanks. Grab a fat ass to anchor down in the second if you're not sold on Kearse or Cole.

[XClown1986]

If we take Vaccaro at #14, I'm gonna stick my fist through a wall. No clue what people are seeing in this guy that makes them think he's going to be an elite NFL safety.

Really? There have been a few people on the board that are adamantly against taking Vaccaro. I don't understand why. He is easily the most instinctual safety in the draft.

[RoaringRiot]

I hate to say it, but I actually agree with him. If the Panthers can sign Hixon and add a DT and S starter then they're going to be a tough team. I've got one full leg on the WR at #14 bandwagon, but if we sign Hixon as a #3 (with Ginn already in the rotation and "hopefully" Gettis competing) then I think it has to be D in the 1st and 2nd.

[KDawg004]

I think I rather have one of the several talented CB's that will be available in the 2nd. Duke Williams in the 4th.

[TheRed]

I hate to say it, but I actually agree with him. If the Panthers can sign Hixon and add a DT and S starter then they're going to be a tough team. I've got one full leg on the WR at #14 bandwagon, but if we sign Hixon as a #3 (with Ginn already in the rotation and "hopefully" Gettis competing) then I think it has to be D in the 1st and 2nd.

Ginn is mostly for return duties and Hixon still has to overcome his injury history. Neither are likely long term solutions. Gettis will be lucky to make the roster this season. After that we have Armanti (lol) and Pilares. We also have the eventual retirement of Steve Smith looming. Gettleman is going to draft a receiver, even if it isn't at #14.

[RoaringRiot]

Ginn is mostly for return duties and Hixon still has to overcome his injury history. Neither are likely long term solutions. Gettis will be lucky to make the roster this season. After that we have Armanti (lol) and Pilares. We also have the eventual retirement of Steve Smith looming. Gettleman is going to draft a receiver, even if it isn't at #14.

I absolutely don't think they're long term solutions. I do think Ginn could add some value lining up and going deep - he's still got great speed and Cam can throw one hell of a deep ball. My point was that if Hixon signs (which he did), then I think they have to go D in the first two rounds. We can all agree that the WR group is already improved from last year.

And I don't think you can automatically say Gettis won't make the team. That's a huge assumption without seeing the guy on the field in a year.

[koolkatluke]

I absolutely don't think they're long term solutions. I do think Ginn could add some value lining up and going deep - he's still got great speed and Cam can throw one hell of a deep ball. My point was that if Hixon signs (which he did), then I think they have to go D in the first two rounds. We can all agree that the WR group is already improved from last year.

And I don't think you can automatically say Gettis won't make the team. That's a huge assumption without seeing the guy on the field in a year.

In 2 years but people will make that assumption without knowing the situation.

[TheRed]

I absolutely don't think they're long term solutions. I do think Ginn could add some value lining up and going deep - he's still got great speed and Cam can throw one hell of a deep ball. My point was that if Hixon signs (which he did), then I think they have to go D in the first two rounds. We can all agree that the WR group is already improved from last year.

And I don't think you can automatically say Gettis won't make the team. That's a huge assumption without seeing the guy on the field in a year.

I would love for Ginn and Hixon to have a break out year here, time will tell. Essentially Gettis hasn't seen the field in two years, Fox was head coach at the time.. Now we have a new GM, the odds are not in his favor. Hey I will be hoping for his return to form, but we can't sit on our hands waiting around though.

[RoaringRiot]

I would love for Ginn and Hixon to have a break out year here, time will tell. Essentially Gettis hasn't seen the field in two years, Fox was head coach at the time.. Now we have a new GM, the odds are not in his favor. Hey I will be hoping for his return to form, but we can't sit on our hands waiting around though.

I agree. I'm sure Gettis will be battling just to make the team. I don't expect much from Hixon or Ginn. I think Hixon is a much better target than Murphy. That's a definite improvement. I can see us still going WR in the 4th. Loving all the competition at that position this year.

[CRA]

Give us 2 impact defensive starters at DT and in the Secondary. We will win this division. None of the Teams can stop us on offense in this division. With some addition on defense we can stop them.

OL still hasn't been fixed....and as is puts a lot of pressure on Cam. OL wasn't good last year even with Kalil healthy.

Now maybe Amini improves but if he doesn't G play is still below average. RT play as well.