Who's your "prime target"?

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Did I mention that Carolina just signed another WR? and he is 6'2"? So clearly the front office believed height might have been an issue as well?

[carolina-chuck]

I am sorry I actually back up the things I say with a little research. How do you approach the "well thought out" posts you make? I assume you base them off of your extensive knowledge of the NFL that you ascertain from sitting on your couch watching sportscenter?

I am sorry our methods for understanding how things work differ. When I want to know something, I go look at statistics and don't base my decisions off my gut feeling.

For example, if you can find one statistic that would explain why height is not an important factor for recievers I would love to hear it. I have already told you how a reciever under 6' did not catch more than 8 TDs last year, your response?? The tall people have good QBs! Seriously man? That is your argument? Then you decide the Seahawks are your next arguing point and well over half the recievers on their roster are over 6'.

So, lets look at the Seahawks recieving yards and TDs last year

6'4'' Sidney Rice 748 yards, 7TDs

5'10" Golden Tate 688 yards, 7 TDs

6'5" Zach Miller 396 yards, 3 TDs

5'10" Doug Baldwin 366 yards, 3 TDs

6'5" Anthony McCoy 291 yards, 3 TDs

6'3" Braylon Edwards 74 yards, 1TD

6'4" Ben Obamanu 58 yards

6'1" Charly Martin 42 yards

6'2" Jermaine Kearse 31 yards

6'6" Evan Moore 6 yards

So, out of 2,700 yards, 1646 were to recievers over 6' or 61%

Not to mention out of 24 TDs, 14 were to recievers over 6' or 58%

So for the 'shortest' team in the league, according to you, over half the recieving stats were still put up by people over 6'.

Funny how you left out Golden Tate. He's "1" td away from your "8".

I think it's very immature to say you don't want to draft a very good receiver bc his height.

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Funny how you left out Golden Tate. He's "1" td away from your "8".

I think it's very immature to say you don't want to draft a very good receiver bc his height.

I think it is ignorant to pretend height is not an important physical characteristic for a receiver. With the addition of Hixon, the probability of drafting a WR in the first is slim to none, so I guess we can end this conversation. It just boggles the mind that you refuse to see how having 6 WRs under 5'10" could be a detriment to our team.

[CRA]

Ideally Star...

If he is gone I would hope there is a team that really wants someone that could allow us to move down and gain a pick to about 20ish and snag Hopkins or Cyprien.

[CRA]

I think it is ignorant to pretend height is not an important physical characteristic for a receiver. With the addition of Hixon, the probability of drafting a WR in the first is slim to none, so I guess we can end this conversation. It just boggles the mind that you refuse to see how having 6 WRs under 5'10" could be a detriment to our team.

Hixon has no impact on what we do with our draft

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Hixon has no impact on what we do with our draft

I was unaware that adding free agents wouldn't affect our team needs and therefor HAVE A DIRECT FUKKIN IMPACT on our draft...... I swear sometimes, you people.......

[DaveThePanther2008]

We've signed two FA WRs. I believe our targets for #14 will be Defense. I would love to see Star but since he has been cleared 100% I don't see him around at 14.

Vaccaro @ 14

Hankins @ 44

[CRA]

I was unaware that adding free agents wouldn't affect our team needs and therefor HAVE A DIRECT FUKKIN IMPACT on our draft...... I swear sometimes, you people.......

Again, Hixon has no impact and influence in what we do in the first round.

I mean seriously?

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Again, Hixon has no impact and influence in what we do in the first round.

I mean seriously?

How can you even think that bringing in two FA WRs doesn't slightly affect our draft? I am pretty sure numerous factors go into our picks. Even though we want to draft BPA, this does not happen. If BPA in the first is a QB, were probably not going to draft him, due to the fact that we have 2 and a half already on the roster. Drafting purely BPA, you could end up drafting 7 Centers. The talent, roster room, cap space, etc all has an effect on our draft. It is ignorant to say that any changes to our roster does not affect the draft. I assume who we take is a fluid decision with multiple variables.

[CRA]

How can you even think that bringing in two FA WRs doesn't slightly affect our draft? I am pretty sure numerous factors go into our picks. Even though we want to draft BPA, this does not happen. If BPA in the first is a QB, were probably not going to draft him, due to the fact that we have 2 and a half already on the roster. Drafting purely BPA, you could end up drafting 7 Centers. The talent, roster room, cap space, etc all has an effect on our draft. It is ignorant to say that any changes to our roster does not affect the draft. I assume who we take is a fluid decision with multiple variables.

How can you think bringing in the likes of Ted Gin and Hixon somehow means we shouldn't look to draft a WR early anymore?

Again, seriously?

Neither are anything more than depth. We still need to replace Smitty and upgrade our # 2.

I never blindedly said your roster and moves don't impact draft decisions....I said bringing in 2 middle of the road guys at WR both a half decade into there careers doesn't change our need to look at WR early in the draft.

It might impact it LATE in the draft but again makes zero impact with our top picks

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

How can you think bringing in the likes of Ted Gin and Hixon somehow means we shouldn't look to draft a WR early anymore?

Again, seriously?

Neither are anything more than depth. We still need to replace Smitty and upgrade our # 2.

I never blindedly said your roster and moves don't impact draft decisions....I said bringing in 2 middle of the road guys at WR both a half decade into there careers doesn't change our need to look at WR early in the draft.

It might impact it LATE in the draft but again makes zero impact with our top picks

I am simply saying it does have an effect on our draft choices. Whether this is right/wrong good/bad productive/inhibitive is not the point. It makes us less likely to draft a WR in the first. Much less likely. Where before, WR was such a pressing need taking a WR early was almost unavoidable, now we can see how the draft

unfolds

[CRA]

I am simply saying it does have an effect on our draft choices. Whether this is right/wrong good/bad productive/inhibitive is not the point. It makes us less likely to draft a WR in the first. Much less likely. Where before, WR was such a pressing need taking a WR early was almost unavoidable, now we can see how the draft

unfolds

Again, drafting a WR early has nothing to do with Ginn and Hixon. They don't alter that view.

They may alter drafting one late.

WR is still a pressing need. Smith is getting old and our current #2 could be upgraded. All we are doing is tinkering with the 3rd, 4th and 5th spots

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Again, drafting a WR early has nothing to do with Ginn and Hixon. They don't alter that view.

They may alter drafting one late.

WR is still a pressing need. Smith is getting old and our current #2 could be upgraded. All we are doing is tinkering with the 3rd, 4th and 5th spots

Agree to disagree? This team has other, more pressing needs. Like G, T, DT, CB, S, TE

[CRA]

Agree to disagree? This team has other, more pressing needs. Like G, T, DT, CB, S, TE

Hey, this teams has tons of needs...no argument there.

But we are playing with fire at WR. Smith is on borrowed time. You think odds are high he puts in a 3rd consecutive 16 game season at his age? With his style?

Gettlemen comes from an organization that stresses loading up a DE and WR early in the draft as well