Cordarrelle Patterson vs. Tavon Austin

[koolkatluke]

I see. Everytime you're losing an argument to me, whoever (wood), you start the name calling. Very classy.

You started this dumb thread. You are comparing 2 different type of WR. It isn't a fair comparison.

You can't Compare a player like Art Monk to Marvin Harrison they are 2 different types of WR. Great in what they do but different.

[JawnyBlaze]

If I had to choose between them with no other options I'd take Austin. He's more of a proven WR and the only advantage Patterson has on him is height. If I'm taking a huge gamble on one of this year's WRs in the 1st, I'll take the one with the bigger playmaking potential.

[BigSyke]

I see what Chuck is saying. Welker is the main go to guy and technically is the "no1".

But since he is limited to a degree and can't line up on the outside, he's not considered a true number 1 wide-out.

Now Desean Jackson, another short wr, is limited to only the 9 route. But since HE IS A DEEP THREAT he has more value. And he's not really limited to the 9 route, it's just that dude can't take those big hits because he is small as fug.

One of the things(big hits) I'm worried about Tavon dealing with

[Bwood]

LOL Welker is not a fugging #1 receiver.

Just because he was Brady's safety valve doesn't mean he is their "number one" receiver. That's like saying Greg Olsen is our #1 receiver.

Brandon Lloyd was the Patriots number one receiver. Your number one receiver should be able to run every route, get jump balls, and take on the opposing defenses #1 corner.

Welker was a miss match for teams nickle corners, safeties, and linebackers. He wouldn't do squat against a true shutdown corner.

And can we PLEASE keep in mind who made Welkers name? Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. Watch Julian Edleman do the exact same thing.

Austin is nothing more than a slot receiver and kick returner.

Now Patterson and Allen, can be #1 receivers. They have the size and potential to be Julio Jones like. Not megatron or AJ, but they are bigger speedy receivers that make perfect flankers on the outside.

Stop being close minded.

[jarhead]

You dont draft slot wr's / KR's with the 14th pick.

Austin is good, but he is a luxury pick, something we dont have

He is more than just a slot receiver....he can add that scat back element to our running game as well especially knowing Dwill still may be a June 1 cut

[Dash Global]

He is more than just a slot receiver....he can add that scat back element to our running game as well especially knowing Dwill still may be a June 1 cut

scatback / slot still not worth a 14th pick when we got this many needs.

luxury pick

[BigSyke]

Glad to see others see that Tavon is just a slot. mannnnnnn...WHEW LOLOL

[panther4life]

I have yet to see Austin catch a pass higher than 7 feet vertically. He rarely goes deep and seems to make all of his plays in space. You get him jammed up against an NFL corner on the outside and I don't think he will be nearly as effective.

Just not a fit for our offense. Cam throws a lot of his balls too high, so we need someone who can go up and get them.

Cam's accuarcy is also much better on deep routes than the short quick routes you'd have to employ to get Austin the ball in space to utilize his strengths.

[Squirrel]

Back in 2002 Smitty wasnt a number 1 receiver either.

[La Pantera]

I have yet to see Austin catch a pass higher than 7 feet vertically. He rarely goes deep and seems to make all of his plays in space. You get him jammed up against an NFL corner on the outside and I don't think he will be nearly as effective.

Just not a fit for our offense. Cam throws a lot of his balls too high, so we need someone who can go up and get them.

Cam's accuarcy is also much better on deep routes than the short quick routes you'd have to employ to get Austin the ball in space to utilize his strengths.

I love both guys. I wanted Austin after I seen the show he put on against Clemson in that bowl game. And I've wanted to get CP since the begining of the season. I totally agree, I've yet to see TA high point a ball in the air and CP is raw. I'd take either, but both have areas that need improvement.

[panther4life]

Back in 2002 Smitty wasnt a number 1 receiver either.

Was that his fault or John Fox's? Smith can do things Austin can't. Namely go up and compete for passes in the air. Fight off the jam against physical NFL corners.

Its all about being a fit for the offense. Austin can and likely will have success in this league,I just don't see it being with us. I'd seriously rather have your boy Bailey in the 2nd.

[BigSyke]

^I had been asking him about Bailey...but he always seemed to favor Tavon........

[ncsu12engr]

I personally don't like the idea of taking a WR in the first. But, if we did I would want a guy like Patterson or Allen that can play on the outside. If we drafted a WR that can play on the outside we could then move Smitty to the slot which would cause matchup nightmares for defenses.

[Squirrel]

Was that his fault or John Fox's? Smith can do things Austin can't. Namely go up and compete for passes in the air. Fight off the jam against physical NFL corners.

Its all about being a fit for the offense. Austin can and likely will have success in this league,I just don't see it being with us. I'd seriously rather have your boy Bailey in the 2nd.

No on this board even after the Superbowl people was saying Smitty wasnt a true #1 and we needed a bigger receiver.

As for Bailey he is a true slot receiver and wont be more than a #2 WR. Only issue I have with Bailey is if he can stay healthy. He doesnt seem to play well hurt. I would take him in the 2nd or 3rd though. Good production player and can make the difficult catches.