First Draft Podcast-Kiper/McShay Discuss picks 11-15

[rodeo]

Remember Gettleman drafted JPP at 15 when everyone was sure he'd be a bust.

[TheRed]

I don't want to be put in a category like that. I love Austin I think he is a great play maker for a team that uses a slot WR a lot. But I don't think this team is moving in that direction. Plus I think it's crazy to draft a player thinking he will become 89. Again people I could see another Megatron type player coming along before another Steve Smith. I've never seen a player like him before.

I never said I thought he would become another Steve Smith. I simply countered your assertion that the limits of his capabilities are already written in stone before he is even drafted or plays a down in the NFL.

[koolkatluke]

I never said I thought he? would become another Steve Smith. I simply countered your assertion that the limits of his capabilities are already written in stone before he is even drafted or plays a down in the NFL.

I think now when drafting a player in the 1st or 2nd round. It's not just about what a player can be potentially it's what they can do day 1. With this team we need 2 starters out of our 1st 2 picks.

[Frizzy350]

We won't take a DT in the first (at least at pick #14) and here is why:

-1st round DTs that aren't top 5 can't miss guys (Suh, McCoy, Darius) have absurdly high bust rates.

-We have Ron Rivera and Gettleman, both of which are very good at digging through other team's trash and finding capable guys for cheap. We will get a guy or two late in FA or after pre-season cuts, and they will surprise us.

-Young super talented DT does not fit into our future. We are going to be investing huge money into Keek, Hardy and CJ for the next decade.

-It's not as big a need as we think it is. Dwan will NEVER repeat his 6 sack season, he got that from teams overplanning for our DE combo. Also you need to remember on passing downs we usually bring Hardy inside. All we need is a guy for running downs to control his gap.

[MrBubba]

Remember Gettleman drafted JPP at 15 when everyone was sure he'd be a bust.

The Giants drafted him, not Gettleman.

[Growl]

Trends and comments from the team this offseason most certainly dictate that we're looking to take a WR high.

Honestly I think Gettleman's ideal scenario is to move down roughly 7 or 8 spots, garner a 3rd, and take a WR with the first pick, but putting that into play will be tricky.

Either way, that certainly appears to be where our interest lies.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Well if we can pick up a 3rd, 4th id be thrilled..but who is moving up? SF?

[Frizzy350]

I really like Austin's game tape, he is a human highlight reel but I just don't like the fact that his stock jumped SO much from a good combine.

[Frizzy350]

Well if we can pick up a 3rd, 4th id be thrilled..but who is moving up? SF?

Depends who is available at 14 and what teams are in the market.

[TheRed]

I don't expect anyone to be beating our door down to move up. Not with this draft class.

[jarhead]

Well if we can pick up a 3rd, 4th id be thrilled..but who is moving up? SF?

Maybe the Rams with two picks in the first

[Frizzy350]

I don't expect anyone to be beating our door down to move up. Not with this draft class.

Probably not beating down the door, but we have a much better shot than guys picking in the top 10. This will be a good draft, there just aren't many studs in the top 10.

[Montsta]

1st Sheldon Richardson

2nd Da'Rick Ridgers

4th Shamarko Thomas

5th Best OL available

6th BPA

7th BPA

Lock it up. Championship.

[Growl]

Well if we can pick up a 3rd, 4th id be thrilled..but who is moving up? SF?

I don't really know how likely it is to happen. I just think its Gettleman's ideal scenario.