2008: We got an F+

[Fiz]

I dont know- but I know there are two Black chic tennis players woopin everyones ass

ATP is men's tour try to keep up AKPantherFan

[Fiz]

also the williams sisters are barely top ten these days.

i mean i know you don't know what you're talking about but in case you ever wanted to, but wouldn't only 2 black people in the top ten (really all of women's tennis) mean that whites are genetically predisposed to be better at tennis?

CAN YOU BACKTRACK ANY FURTHER ONLY TIME WILL TELL

[jangler=fat]

Black people are discrimnated against and not allowed to play tennis, thats why there are no black tennis players.

[jangler=fat]

I just dont see a problem with giving credit where credit is due.

Black athletes have fought oppression and discrimination to take a commanding lead in the nations biggest sport (NFL for those who cant keep up)

I will find some scientific research, its out there. But the biggest identifier is the fact that almost 70% of the NFL is black.

Theres no denying that "sour butt hurt white guys"....

So even though the NFL is 70 percent black you still think black quarterbacks are being discriminated against?

[AKPantherFan]

here is some stuff i am finding;

On Friday, BBC Sport Online will be hosting a live forum with reporter Kurt Barling. Click here to pose your question.

What makes a champion; hard work or natural talent? Put another way, is there a faster race? Are black athletes born winners or is it simply how hard they work?

With the sprint and middle distance events at the Sydney Olympics once again set to be dominated by black athletes, The Faster Race - a programme scripted and filmed by an all-black production team - asked whether black athletes possess a genetic advantage.

Scientists believe there are three reasons West African athletes have an advantage in the sprint events.

Ato Boldon is featured in The Faster Race

Firstly, they have more muscle and less fat. Secondly, they have higher levels of testosterone. Finally, they have more fast twitch fibres in their muscles than their white counterparts.

Roger Bannister, an Olympic gold medallist and the first man to break the four-minute mile barrier, was a respected neurosurgeon.

But even he was still pilloried as a racist when he said: "Black sprinters and black athletes in general all seem to have certain natural anatomical advantages."

British expatriate, Jean-Phillippe Rushton, caused controversy in 1989 when he claimed he had scientific evidence of an inherited link between brain size, intelligence and race.

"Blacks have a genetic edge when it comes to sports," he claimed.

Efficient stride

"They have a narrower pelvis which makes for a more efficient stride. They have more testosterone which gives them more explosive energy. But these come at a price and the price is a smaller brain.

"The testosterone also comes at a cost because it makes the children more restless in school and perhaps prone to crime, so you can't have everything."

Britain's Colin Jackson lends his opinion

It is such views as Rushton's that make this such a controversial issue to debate.

Geoff Small, who produced 'The Faster Race', certainly believes racism has a part to play.

"My worry is that young black people are not aware that they are being told the only place they will be allowed to spectacularly succeed in, is the sporting arena," he said.

"What we are trying to do with this programme is get to the heart of what is really going on with these issues.

"The question is, what is black anyway, who defines what race is and does it even exist apart from in our own minds?"

[Fiz]

so AK where is this statistical and scientific evidence that blacks are genetically predisposed to be better at footbal

[AKPantherFan]

He'll bounce back faster than GM stock.

Ohhh. thats a good one-- I invested in GE, I am sure i will re-invest in GM when it comes backon the open market.

Mistakes happen to learn from, its folks who take chances who get the most from it though....

[Fiz]

so AK where is this statistical and scientific evidence that blacks are genetically predisposed to be better at football

[AKPantherFan]

here is some stuff i am finding;

Quote:

On Friday, BBC Sport Online will be hosting a live forum with reporter Kurt Barling. Click here to pose your question.

What makes a champion; hard work or natural talent? Put another way, is there a faster race? Are black athletes born winners or is it simply how hard they work?

With the sprint and middle distance events at the Sydney Olympics once again set to be dominated by black athletes, The Faster Race - a programme scripted and filmed by an all-black production team - asked whether black athletes possess a genetic advantage.

Scientists believe there are three reasons West African athletes have an advantage in the sprint events.

Ato Boldon is featured in The Faster Race

Firstly, they have more muscle and less fat. Secondly, they have higher levels of testosterone. Finally, they have more fast twitch fibres in their muscles than their white counterparts.

Roger Bannister, an Olympic gold medallist and the first man to break the four-minute mile barrier, was a respected neurosurgeon.

But even he was still pilloried as a racist when he said: "Black sprinters and black athletes in general all seem to have certain natural anatomical advantages."

British expatriate, Jean-Phillippe Rushton, caused controversy in 1989 when he claimed he had scientific evidence of an inherited link between brain size, intelligence and race.

"Blacks have a genetic edge when it comes to sports," he claimed.

Efficient stride

"They have a narrower pelvis which makes for a more efficient stride. They have more testosterone which gives them more explosive energy. But these come at a price and the price is a smaller brain.

"The testosterone also comes at a cost because it makes the children more restless in school and perhaps prone to crime, so you can't have everything."

Britain's Colin Jackson lends his opinion

It is such views as Rushton's that make this such a controversial issue to debate.

Geoff Small, who produced 'The Faster Race', certainly believes racism has a part to play.

"My worry is that young black people are not aware that they are being told the only place they will be allowed to spectacularly succeed in, is the sporting arena," he said.

"What we are trying to do with this programme is get to the heart of what is really going on with these issues.

"The question is, what is black anyway, who defines what race is and does it even exist apart from in our own minds?"

ohh- link http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics2000/910263.stm

[Delhommey]

No. It was those of us that shorted it that gained the most, but whatever.

[Fiz]

Mistakes happen to learn from, its folks who take chances who get the most from it though....

how about you learn from your mistake that you have no idea what you're talking about, admit that the discrepancy in skin color in the nfl is due to a slew of socio-economic factors, and that your original assertion is completely unprovable horseshit derived from your child like desire to find simple answers for all of life's problems

[Fiz]

ohh- link http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics2000/910263.stm

oh great what does this have to do with the statistical and scientific evidence that blacks are genetically predisposed to be better at football

[Fiz]

lol i didn't even see this

There have also been studies to show that "inner city kids (mostly black) tend to contribute to the large % of the NFL players. This is thought to be because of the "me against the world" mentality that helps them focus on a goal.

you see as a white male living in alaska, i can tell you the ***** has a "me against the world" mentality absent from the latinos and asian inner city gang members that truly propels him into the nfl.

that attitude, combined with his natural genetic predisposition to play a very specific sport that's only been around for about a century (they were bred to play it you see back in the days of slavery) leads to them having almost 70% of the nfl, most of the nba, and almost none of any other sport because they don't require athletic skill

[AKPantherFan]

here is some more;

The Story Behind the Amazing Success of Black Athletes, by Jon Entine

PART II:

Shattering Racist Myths: The Science Behind Why Kenyans Dominate Distance Running

Even a casual mention that meaningful genetic differences exist between populations can ignite a firestorm and threaten a career. Ask Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder. Or Roger Bannister, the first man to break the four-minute barrier in the mile, in 1954. In a speech before the British Association for the Advancement of Science in 1995, Sir Roger Bannister, the distinguished neurologist and retired Oxford dean was showered with ridicule for venturing his opinion "as a scientist rather than a sociologist" that all athletes are not created equal. "I am prepared to risk political incorrectness," he said, "by drawing attention to the seemingly obvious but under stressed fact that black sprinters and black athletes in general all seem to have certain natural anatomical advantages."

That's the explosive "N" word - natural. Because of the pseudo-science that has historically plagued research into human differences, assertions that biology predetermines or even significantly influences human behavior runs into a wall of political incorrectness. That's the politics.

While everyone readily accepts that evolution has turned out blacks with a genetic proclivity to contract sickle cell and Jews of European heritage who are 100 times more likely than other populations to be afflicted with the degenerative mental disease Tay-Sachs, it is widely perceived as racist to suggest that blacks of West African ancestry have evolved into the world's best sprinters, Asians among the best divers, East Africans the premier distance runners, and whites the top weightlifters.

Yet the science is quite clear and the empirical evidence consistent and overwhelming. A look at the ancestry (or home country) of runners holding the top 100 times in eight distances, from the 100 meters to the marathon, makes it clear that African domination is deep as well as broad:

Blacks who trace their ancestry to West Africa, including African Americans, hold more than 95 percent of the top times in sprinting;

Whites are virtually absent from the top ranks of sprinting; though whites have traditionally done well in the longer endurance races, particularly the marathon, their ranks have thinned in recent years;

Athletes from one country, Kenya, make up more than one-third of top times in middle and long distance races; including top performances by other East Africans (most from Ethiopia), that domination swells to almost 50 percent.

North Africans do well at middle distances;

Mexicans (Native Americans), are strongest at the longest races, 10,000 meters and the marathon;