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Bucky Brooks' latest mock (has us passing on Patterson). Hmmph.


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1. There are some places that don't have him as the number 1 rated WR so it's not a consensus.

Cam wasn't the consensus top QB, but he sure made consensus ROY.

2. If that word keeps showing up in every breakdown "He is talented but really raw" over and over again. I'm sorry but that's a negative in my eyes.

Raw, for me, is a very weak negative.

3. If we are going to keep using Cam as a example. Then Patterson must have had the greatest season of any WR in SEC history and lead a team to a National Championship . Because that's what Cam did. How about you name me a "WR" who was this raw had this little of College production and Experience that was picked in the top 15 of the draft?

Comparing QB impact to WR impact is assinine. Cam did it with no real WR's, but it doesn't work the other way around. I'll do some homework tomorrow on other WR's who were tabbed raw, but to try to quantify the level of rawness is impossible as it's completely subjective. Patterson's problem isn't college production, it's college snaps.

4. It's a talented WR class because you can get the same talent and impact from the 3rd and 2nd round prospects as you can get in the 1st. Not because you have a great, elite, can't miss WR prospect.

Sure, there's no Calvin Johnson, but the group as a whole is very strong. Patterson, in many cases, leads the way.

Word.

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Well, you probably know more than me, but the scouts are saying that he can and will fight for the ball in the air. And, like I have said, there are many comparisons to Percy Harvin, who is arguably just as important, if not more than Green, Bryant or Jones to their respective teams. Scouts are giving this guy more credit and attributing way more explosiveness and upside than you seem to be. Just saying.

And there are some scouts who aren't doing that.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-03-06/nfl-draft-2013-wide-receiver-tavon-austin-cordarrelle-patterson-robert-woods/slide/9

Height: 6-1 7/8

Weight: 216 pounds

There are some who see Patterson as a big, explosive SEC receiver in the mold of Atlanta's Julio Jones. Others see him as an on-paper dazzling talent with questions about his hands, route-running and overall consistency. Patterson's upside will make him a first-rounder.

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Word.

Better then that Jack name me a WR in the history of the NFL drafted in the top 15

with 46 rec. 778 yards and 5 td?

I would also like to point out that you have already made a Judgment on Joe Adams and his stats were

56 rec 652 yards and 3td. Not that far off.

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Raw is made up of shades, and no two raw players are the same, so comparisons are pointless.

Some players, like Cam, are considered raw because they haven't done something (like take snaps from under center or reading a defense) and people assume it will take time for them to learn how...if they can ever learn it. But others, like Patterson, are considered raw because we have seen them do everything they will be expected to do in the NFL, but have clear weaknesses that must be corrected before they can live up to their potential.

I like Patterson, and was high on the possibility of taking him at 14. However, the more I hear and see about him, the more wary I become. There is no doubt that he is explosive...particularly with the ball in his hands in the open field. My concern comes with pretty much every other aspect of his game. They were talking the other night on Path to the Draft about how he jumps for most balls, even when he doesn't need to, and that receivers like that are almost always body catchers...and when I watch clips of him, that is exactly what I see. He also is not a skilled route runner at this point. And from what I have heard and read, he is not considered the most intelligent of guys and was not giving teams a good impression in the interviews at the combine.

With that said, I think he will be a good receiver, and definitely worth at least a 2nd, but I am not sold on the fact that he will fix his flaws to the extent that he will ever become a clear #1 receiver. But I do believe he can be at least a solid #2, so if we do take him, I think he does add value and makes the team better.

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Can't wait to hear what people think about me wanting to gamble on Denard Robinson...

I'd be okay with Denard in a later round, 4th or later. Every QB convert is not Edwards. Unlike Edwards, Robinson actually played against high level competition week in and week out. Also unlike Edwards, he had great production at RB and WR when his arm was too injured to play QB. The guy has great vision and speed, has great potential at WR.

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If Pattersons ceiling, is to be the next Devin Hester, do you take him at 14? Hester is a game changer on returns, but a so so receiver and that is what I think Patterson will be. So if my opinion is true for arguments sake, is he worth the pick?

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If Pattersons ceiling, is to be the next Devin Hester, do you take him at 14? Hester is a game changer on returns, but a so so receiver and that is what I think Patterson will be. So if my opinion is true for arguments sake, is he worth the pick?

I think you meant "doo-doo" reciever. and patterson is NOT that. He is leagues ahead of hester in terms of the WR position.

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I don't understand the obsession with Patterson. He didn't do poo against good competition. Just go look at his stats. Only 750 receiving yards and over 200 of that was against fuging Troy. He didn't do poo in SEC play.

I don't understand the obsession with drafting a WR in the first round, either. If Cam doesn't have time to throw, what's it matter? We already have a solid core. Pretty sure we'll be looking in FA for a receiver. Who the hell is going to start at CB? This isn't Madden.

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Raw is made up of shades, and no two raw players are the same, so comparisons are pointless.

Some players, like Cam, are considered raw because they haven't done something (like take snaps from under center or reading a defense) and people assume it will take time for them to learn how...if they can ever learn it. But others, like Patterson, are considered raw because we have seen them do everything they will be expected to do in the NFL, but have clear weaknesses that must be corrected before they can live up to their potential.

I like Patterson, and was high on the possibility of taking him at 14. However, the more I hear and see about him, the more wary I become. There is no doubt that he is explosive...particularly with the ball in his hands in the open field. My concern comes with pretty much every other aspect of his game. They were talking the other night on Path to the Draft about how he jumps for most balls, even when he doesn't need to, and that receivers like that are almost always body catchers...and when I watch clips of him, that is exactly what I see. He also is not a skilled route runner at this point. And from what I have heard and read, he is not considered the most intelligent of guys and was not giving teams a good impression in the interviews at the combine.

With that said, I think he will be a good receiver, and definitely worth at least a 2nd, but I am not sold on the fact that he will fix his flaws to the extent that he will ever become a clear #1 receiver. But I do believe he can be at least a solid #2, so if we do take him, I think he does add value and makes the team better.

Have some pie and rep, Woodie. Seriously one of the better and honest answers that I've seen.

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