How much over the cap are we really?as low as 3-5 million?

[TylerVagyler]

Either way, he is more accurate than the idiot who wrote the article in the OP.

[SuperMan]

I don't usually like repeating myself, but for the stupid, I feel as though they deserve another shot.

Joe person originally wrote an article that we were 10 mil over the cap and claimed this was with an expected cap number of 121 mil

Last night he claimed we were 9 mil over the cap with an expected cap number of 123 mil.

I can see you're not that bright by your lack of patience and aggression so we will break this down for you and others with a double digit IQ.

121 mil cap=10 mil over

123 mil cap=9 mil over

He was off by a million.

IQ insults from a semi-sentient being who has so little to do with his pathetic existence that he argues with Person.... That is laughable.

When you only take into account the top 51 contracts (which is what he was doing in one he would be correct).

[Frank Hollywood]

Either way, he is more accurate than the idiot who wrote the article in the OP.

Lol, the only thing I can think of is maybe this doesnt account for the extra needed to sign draft picks? Perhaps the op is right but that isn't factored in yet? Just a guess.

[TylerVagyler]

Lol, the only thing I can think of is maybe this doesnt account for the extra needed to sign draft picks? Perhaps the op is right but that isn't factored in yet? Just a guess.

Draft picks are not factored in at this point.

[Frank Hollywood]

IQ insults from a semi-sentient being who has so little to do with his pathetic existence that he argues with Person.... That is laughable.

When you only take into account the top 51 contracts (which is what he was doing in one he would be correct).

What's funny is I'm a worthless being because I argue with person, yet you're here arguing with me. What does that make you??

Ill wait...

[Frank Hollywood]

How hard is it for superman to see that person claimed he was using a 122mil cap estimate and I show he was using a 121 mil cap estimate. How is that not wrong? Add in the fact that shefter is reporting we are 8 mil over (1 mil less than what person is saying) and it makes sense that person is off by a million

Logic must be your kryptonite.

[carp24000]

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $10.9 million - Adjusted Cap: +1.9 million

Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $3.3 million - Adjusted Cap: +5.2 Million

Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 5 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +10 million.

Good for some free agent activity and signing of rookies, etc.

[Frank Hollywood]

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $10.9 million - Adjusted Cap: +1.9 million

Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $3.3 million - Adjusted Cap: +5.2 Million

Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 5 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +10 million.

Good for some free agent activity and signing of rookies, etc.

You have to still pay them their guaranteed money. Your numbers are off. Gamble saves us 7.9 I believe.

[carp24000]

You have to still pay them their guaranteed money. Your numbers are off. Gamble saves us 7.9 I believe.

My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million

Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million

Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.

[SuperMan]

What's funny is I'm a worthless being because I argue with person, yet you're here arguing with me. What does that make you??

Ill wait...

The difference is I am casualty browsing a message board you actually went out of your way to talk smack to person....

[Frank Hollywood]

The difference is I am casualty browsing a message board you actually went out of your way to talk smack to person....

Actually, it was more of a correction as I was casually browsing Twitter. He then replied with " that's not what I said", so I replied with a link to his quotes to prove he did.

I also liked how you changed the subject of the original argument once you realized you were wrong.

Go ahead and keep throwing your little fits when all I did was ANSWER A THREAD QUESTION WITH THE CORRECT INFO it makes you feel better. I said what I had to say.

[Frank Hollywood]

My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million

Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million

Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.

I'm quite sure it's only 8 mil but I get where you're going.

I'd honestly like to bring back what's his face at RG or bring in another RG even if we have to spend for it. Also bring in a NT or UT in free agency if possible.

Come draft day, if Patterson is available I want to pull the trigger on him. If he's not I'd love to take the best DT on the board whether it be UT or NT. (Richardson, Star, Floyd, Jesse Williams, etc)

Round 2 I'd like a safety unless we took a DT, then I'd like to absolutely address WR with the best one on the board. (Hunter hopefully)

We can't fill all of our holes this year, but I believe by the 2014 kickoff we are going to be real contenders.

[IamSoClutch]

My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million

Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million

Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.

i thought adam just said we were 8mil over???

[carp24000]

i thought adam just said we were 8mil over???

Person said 9 million last night, so I am taking the over just to be cautious. Hopefully it is really 8 million though...