Jake Delhomme's next starting QB job...

[carolinarolls]

IMO i dont think any team would take jake as the UNQUESTIONED starter...i just dont see a team

It's tough to envision it happening. i don't know if that really means anything or not but it is kind of disheartening. Fortunately we are not trying to trade him.

[carolinarolls]

Maybe not having a big stand our WR could help Jake, because if you noticed in the playoff game against the Cards he would get so zoned in on one particular WR that he would ignore or just forget about his surroundings and force the throw. So maybe having 3 good WR would help him more than having 1 Amazing WR.

It would help most quarterbacks but jake is pretty loyal to one guy. When Smitty lost a year the ball got spread out a little but the number two had a career season. It's just his way. he is limited mentally when it comes to processing coverage and finding he open guy and then adjusting to a checkdown or something he did not predetermine to happen in the huddle has not always had the best results (balls soaring over heads of wide open guys running 10 yard outs or stops). to expect anything different is a little tough to do at this stage in his career. A reinvention is not likely to me.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

that entire offensive line is used to a QB who can move and move well in the pocket (they suck at PP). Those receivers are used to a guy who can adjust as they adjust and hit them on the run. Those RB's are used to shedding blocks as their former QB improvises, and mark Clayton is DONE. The running game is good though and Bryant could be very good. It's plausible. Rival player and all though I doubt he would legitimately get the shot. Would you as the owner or GM of TB go after Jake tomorrow if he hit the waiver wire? Think about your fans.

That is a poor argument on my part but it could factor. He may do well there but I doubt he would ever get the chance to find out.

You are right there no way in hell would the Panthers let him got to Tampa when his contract is up (If he still wants to play or hasn't retired by then)

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I think there'd be a few teams that looked at him as an immediate upgrade. Bucs, Vikings and Redskins come to mind.

I can see several more teams that would see him as a definite upgrade at backup, and at the very least let him compete and possibly end up as a starter.

[carolinarolls]

You are right there no way in hell would the Panthers let him got to Tampa when his contract is up (If he still wants to play or hasn't retired by then)

and vice versa the Bucs would not risk it. I don't want Garcia or Vick. I may take Ryan because he is still new and a good kid (thus far) and I may take Brees just because I am greedy but the Brees thing is about 50% or more no because he is a damn Saint. It just would not work.

Aside from that he may fit quite well with that squad were it in another division.

[carolinarolls]

I think there'd be a few teams that looked at him as an immediate upgrade. A few more that would let him compete for the job and he'd have a chance to end up as their starter.

I agree with the second part but I don't know any that would usher him in tomorrow as the guy. To be fair there may not be many QB's that have that ability anyway.

[civilizedgrit]

In your thinly veiled attempt to discredit Jake, you unwittingly make the point about him that his supporters understand and you do not.

He has been retained by the front office because of his 'fit' in our system and the rapport with the veterans on this team. His rapport with all the other moving pieces is perceived to have greater value than whatever else is out there. (Unlike all the Favre nut huggers out there) they do not believe anyone could come in, learn the system, integrate with the other players and achieve the same success as we have with Jake, especially in only a season or two.

Is he the QB with the best numbers? The most Pro-Bowls, the most jersey sales, the most fantasy points or whatever other criteria by which you judge a QB? No, of course not; but in sport, as in life, it isn't always the objective criteria that ensure success.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

The Vikes and Redskins in particular have been actively looking for an upgrade at QB. Skins missed out on Sanchez and Cutler. The only guy the Vikings managed to bring in was Rosenfels. I think both of those teams would jump at the chance to bring Jake in. At the very least let him compete and see if he earns that starting spot. Not saying Jake is some elite QB by any means, but he looks like a definite upgrade for those teams.

[carolinarolls]

In your thinly veiled attempt to discredit Jake, you unwittingly make the point about him that his supporters understand and you do not.

He has been retained by the front office because of his 'fit' in our system and the rapport with the veterans on this team. His rapport with all the other moving pieces is perceived to have greater value than whatever else is out there. (Unlike all the Favre nut huggers out there) they do not believe anyone could come in, learn the system, integrate with the other players and achieve the same success as we have with Jake, especially in only a season or two.

Is he the QB with the best numbers? The most Pro-Bowls, the most jersey sales, the most fantasy points or whatever other criteria by which you judge a QB? No, of course not; but in sport, as in life, it isn't always the objective criteria that ensure success.

great post. the point was already made about him having a great fit in Charlotte though and I have honestly admitted that this probably means nothing. It was just fun. You can relax.

[rayzor]

good suggestions...pick one and tell me why he is better than what is there. I am gonna rule out(imo) denver..pass too much, Washington...not better than current roster, and Cleveland for the same reason without even thinking hard. Houston is intriguing as well as San Fran. Why does he fit either of those?

i'll take a swing at it...seems like a pretty good list.

Tampa Bay- he really is better than any option they have there...maybe not long term but to help freeman learn, sure. he's better and more reliable than luke mccown or leftwich.

Minnesota- tjax is not what they had hoped at all and they are desperate seeking favre, jake presently is a better favre than favre (if that makes sense). i'd take jake over rosenfels easily.

Washington- campbell isn't a good WCO QB and hasn't shown himself to be better in any other system. they want someone else and i'm pretty sure they would come after him.

San Fran- considering the choices they have there...jake would be very welcome. he would help crabtree for sure.

Denver- jake > orton and jake > simms

Cleveland- they would look at him. it doesn't seem like they like their choices there. mangini went after favre pretty hard, iirc and i think that he would probably feel the same about jake. it would be more the intangibles that would be the draw, imo.

Houston- this would be interesting. schaub can't stay healthy. if he doesn't finish this season i can't see them staying with that option much longer. 11 games per season just isn't going to get them in the playoffs. they have their smitty in andre johnson and they know that jake knows how to make use of his big receivers. i wouldn't see the texans as much of a difference from the panthers scheme-wise.

other possibilities:

rams - bulger is becoming or could be a liability there. i know a lot of the blame is the Oline and now lack of receivers but i could see this happening. many thought they were looking for a QB there but they have so many things to build there. jake might be someone who can give them a bit more security while in rebuilding mode.

bills - edwards and losman are nothing great. if they keep on to TO and he makes edwards crumble they may want someone to come in who can handle TO and i think jake would for sure.

titans - jake > collins and would do more for that offense than collins would. he would for sure be more aggressive which is something that held them back last year. VY is an unknown to even them. jake would provide more security until they got this all sorted out.

i don't know that anyone would be looking at him as being a long term solution but 2-3 years, maybe 5? most definitely. he doesn't have near the mileage of some others who are at his age. if a team was looking for vet leadership while in rebuild mode, jake would be perfect.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I believe Jake could come in and start in Minnesota and Washington and Tampa Bay because of the experience factor. Forget that he may not fit in one of those teams particular systems (That is not what the question asked). I believe most teams would take a previous Pro Bowl, and Super Bowl Quarterback over another average Quarterback. Therefore I believe Jake Delhomme could come in two Minnesota, Washington and possibly Tampa Bay and take hold of the starting position at those particular teams and possibly even flourish. Just for the record I am positive more than just these three teams I mentioned would take a chance with Jake as their starter.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

i'll take a swing at it...seems like a pretty good list.

Tampa Bay- he really is better than any option they have there...maybe not long term but to help freeman learn, sure. he's better and more reliable than luke mccown or leftwich.

Minnesota- tjax is not what they had hoped at all and they are desperate seeking favre, jake presently is a better favre than favre (if that makes sense). i'd take jake over rosenfels easily.

Washington- campbell isn't a good WCO QB and hasn't shown himself to be better in any other system. they want someone else and i'm pretty sure they would come after him.

San Fran- considering the choices they have there...jake would be very welcome. he would help crabtree for sure.

Denver- jake > orton and jake > simms

Cleveland- they would look at him. it doesn't seem like they like their choices there. mangini went after favre pretty hard, iirc and i think that he would probably feel the same about jake. it would be more the intangibles that would be the draw, imo.

Houston- this would be interesting. schaub can't stay healthy. if he doesn't finish this season i can't see them staying with that option much longer. 11 games per season just isn't going to get them in the playoffs. they have their smitty in andre johnson and they know that jake knows how to make use of his big receivers. i wouldn't see the texans as much of a difference from the panthers scheme-wise.

other possibilities:

rams - bulger is becoming or could be a liability there. i know a lot of the blame is the Oline and now lack of receivers but i could see this happening. many thought they were looking for a QB there but they have so many things to build there. jake might be someone who can give them a bit more security while in rebuilding mode.

bills - edwards and losman are nothing great. if they keep on to TO and he makes edwards crumble they may want someone to come in who can handle TO and i think jake would for sure.

titans - jake > collins and would do more for that offense than collins would. he would for sure be more aggressive which is something that held them back last year. VY is an unknown to even them. jake would provide more security until they got this all sorted out.

i don't know that anyone would be looking at him as being a long term solution but 2-3 years, maybe 5? most definitely. he doesn't have near the mileage of some others who are at his age. if a team was looking for vet leadership while in rebuild mode, jake would be perfect.

Thats pretty much what I said but thanks for helping me make my point. :thumbsup:

[CharlotteBeer.com]

In your thinly veiled attempt to discredit Jake, you unwittingly make the point about him that his supporters understand and you do not.

He has been retained by the front office because of his 'fit' in our system and the rapport with the veterans on this team.

In your thinly-veiled attempt to discredit carolinarolls, you unwittingly make the point that he doesn't understand the aforementioned point of Delhomme supporters, even though he has clearly voiced these similar points, and as early as his first post:

Maybe he is perfect for the Panthers and only the Panthers but where else would he potentially work out?

He has a spot built for him here and that is fine.

Carolinarolls has been about as objective as can be expected. I'm a Jake supporter, but it is a very interesting question.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

In your thinly-veiled attempt to discredit carolinarolls, you unwittingly make the point that he doesn't understand the aforementioned point of Delhomme supporters, even though he has clearly voiced these similar points, and as early as his first post:

Carolinarolls has been about as objective as can be expected. I'm a Jake supporter, but it is a very interesting question.

I agree with the parts that I can understand :thumbsup: