Gil Brandt ranks Cam 7th best QB under 30

[Lumps]

You wanna know what? I saw RG3 do the same fuging thing vs the Giants game he lost the fumble and went back to the sideline without congratulating the player who recovered it. Don't give me that bullshit, Cam didn't go back to the sideline and "pout" he went to the sideline and review the plays with Shula, Smith called him out after the GIANTS game, we were playing the bears when he fumbled.

And guess what? Gross says Cam listens to everything they tell him, he listened to the advice Delhomme had to give him. Cam going back into the game after severely spraining his ankle, is what I call being a "leader". Maybe he doesn't do it the way people want him to do it, but he earns the respect of his teammates.

You missed my point. It's about what is being percieved. After all we are talking about the media are we not? Do they talk about what is or isn't or what is percieved to be? Cam should have at least congratulated and so should RG3. Did smitty not call him out? I think Smitty would like to see that kind of attitude as well.

That is a standard I'd like to see in any QB. Say what you want but the fact remains this fanbase can't get over their homerism. It's there if you want to see it, if not I understand that too, you're a fan of the team and it's hard to admit contributing issues. What is tiring is how you guys think Cam is so perfect, when he clearly has issue controlling emotions among others. What is tiring is the fans who contantley think everyone is out to get Cam.

Is it not obvious these poeple put a lot of weight in media? You think poeple who put that much emotion and weight in media really have an objective opinon? Think about it. But again, people choose to see what they want to see and what they want to see will validate what they believe. If you step outside this box and just try to just observe you might be able to form an opinion based on observation rather than emotion.

[beastson]

Oh this muthafuga put Luck over Cam

Ohhh you old muthafuga

[Lumps]

Lumps may have changed his name, but his same tired and flawed rhetoric remains.

Despite the current condition of the huddle, messege boards are for the purpose of discussion, though for some it seems to be to have a flaming fit everytime the media reports something inaccurate. What these idiots don't realize is, that is all the time.

It's hard to have relevent conversation with poeple who give a poo what the media thinks.

[FootballMaestro]

You missed my point. It's about what is being percieved. After all we are talking about the media are we not? Do they talk about what is or isn't or what is percieved to be? Cam should have at least congratulated and so should RG3. Did smitty not call him out? I think Smitty would like to see that kind of attitude as well.

That is a standard I'd like to see in any QB. Say what you want but the fact remains this fanbase can't get over their homerism. It's there if you want to see it, if not I understand that too, you're a fan of the team and it's hard to admit contributing issues. What is tiring is how you guys think Cam is so perfect, when he clearly has issue controlling emotions among others. What is tiring is the fans who contantley think everyone is out to get Cam.

Is it not obvious these poeple put a lot of weight in media? You think poeple who put that much emotion and weight in media really have an objective opinon? Think about it. But again, people choose to see what they want to see and what they want to see will validate what they believe. If you step outside this box and just try to just observe you might be able to form an opinion based on observation rather than emotion.

Sorry this is BS. The media lies or is wrong about a lot of things; whether they do it willingly or blithe-fully ignorantly or not. You can't hold Cam to an unfair standard, then tell him how he needs to act when he doesn't meet that unfair standard

People just don't bring up RG3 doing the same thing with the touch down fumble; or Kaepernick spiking the ball after a TD and drawing a penalty; or Brady kicking a defender that wasn't even on him, etc., cause their hopeless homers. They bring it up cause it's a gross double standard, regarding criticism of Cam and the lack of criticism by others when they do similar or the same things. Cam should be judged fairly like anyone else. And he will, when its' by people who don't have a paternal or negative predisposition of him. The ones who do, come off like blowhards.

When Cam yelled at that ref in the Oakland game, some people made a mountain out of it. Considering how beat up Cam was getting, he had a right to be upset. The bump was accidental, and Boger (the Ref) knew it. What makes it so ironic? I can't ever recall Cam yelling at a referee before. Ever! And he even apologized, during the game and at his presser. But some Panther fans were demanding an apology--immediately after the game as if Cam was some kinda repeat Referee offender/Ax murderer. The media will always pick on certain things Cam does and says (until they or the public get tired of it), cause they know Cam draws interest and eyeballs. Simple as that! They don't care.

Yes, Cam should be called out regarding anything blatantly wrong or out of the ordinary he does. However, anything that he does that's expected for his tenure or experience, he should be spoken to and expected to get better, but not castigated for it, like it's something rare or he's some kinda leper That's what people have a problem with.

Sometimes Panther fans act like Cam is their recalcitrant bad child who always gets in trouble, that needs to be constantly monitored and punished, when he's honestly been a model citizen since he's came in the NFL (actually since Blinn Junior College). The rest of it, is just Media BS, cause everyone has their own personality, and not everyone's the same.

[panther4life]

Where does Cam's receiving core rank opposed to those other QB'S listed?

[rayzor]

Matt Ryan number two again lololololol (Seriously I feel like Flacco has out preformed him and deserves that spot)

loooove that.

[tiger7_88]

THIS!!!!!!!!!

Every day someone comes in here to whine that someone is being mean to Cam. It's insanity.

And then Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum and the rest of the Dumlets have to chime in and whine about the whiners.

[Keep Pounding]

I feel it is about right, Cam needs to mature and play more consistent, lead his team to more victories and make the playoffs to top the guys listed above him.

[SuperMan]

I hate the falcons but I have to admit had Matt Ryan been drafted by the ravens I can't help

But believe he would be just as successful as Flacco your kidding yourselves if you don't believe he has had a much better defense at his back.

We are just lucky Ryan didn't fall to us because we would probably be stuck with him and John Fox considering the rumors were substantiated that foxy had a hard on for him.

[SuperMan]

You wanna know what? I saw RG3 do the same fuging thing vs the Giants game he lost the fumble and went back to the sideline without congratulating the player who recovered it. Don't give me that bullshit, Cam didn't go back to the sideline and "pout" he went to the sideline and review the plays with Shula, Smith called him out after the GIANTS game, we were playing the bears when he fumbled.

And guess what? Gross says Cam listens to everything they tell him, he listened to the advice Delhomme had to give him. Cam going back into the game after severely spraining his ankle, is what I call being a "leader". Maybe he doesn't do it the way people want him to do it, but he earns the respect of his teammates.

We all have seen cams improvement there

Is no question of that, but to deny is sideline demeanor can be improved is rather

Idiotic, I believe in the long run Cam will prove himself to be better than all of those listed above him he is on the right track, However I have seen many bad

Plays were he has went to the sideline to sulk instead of studieing the play learning what he did wrong and correcting it.

Cam has all the physical tools to be a truly great QB, and he is making large strides in the right direction I think most here that would be called "haters" by you just want to see him live up to his immense potential rather than letting his ego and emotions win out.

Besides why let yourself get worked up over one insignificant sports writers OPINION!

[tiger7_88]

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[SuperMan]

This looks about right except Kaepernick is too high. Imagine Cam behind that o-line and that crop of receivers. He'd honestly be unstoppable. Kaep looks like a beast but I still think talent wise he's a poor man Cam Newton

Kaep may not have cams ability or arm strength but his humility from being a non first rounder makes him happier to be the Qb.

[Lumps]

Sorry this is BS. The media lies or is wrong about a lot of things; whether they do it willingly or blithe-fully ignorantly or not. You (the media) can't hold Cam to an unfair standard, then tell him how he needs to act when he doesn't meet that unfair standard

People (you mean media) just don't bring up RG3 doing the same thing with the touch down fumble; or Kaepernick spiking the ball after a TD and drawing a penalty; or Brady kicking a defender that wasn't even on him, etc., cause their hopeless homers. They bring it up cause it's a gross double standard (created by the media). Just judge Cam fairly like anyone else.(I judge Cam based on what I'd want my QB to do, who carea bout teh media.)

Like I said, I'd hope ANY QB does what I wanted Cam to do. Problem with huddle is they keep comparing him to other QBs and keep caring what the media is saying. Forget about the media, forget about all other qbs, forget about it all. Now, would you want your QB to congratulate a teamate that saved their ass? I just don't understand saying no.

When Cam yelled at that ref in the Oakland game, some people (the media) made a mountain out of it. Considering how beat up Cam was getting, he had a right to be upset. (yes he did, but I want my QB to keep emotions in check and not let them get the better of him. I believe he let the emotions get the best of him and affect his play because of what I see, not because it's what the media tells me) The bump was accidental, and Boger (the Ref) knew it. What makes it so ironic? I can't ever recall Cam yelling at a referee before. Ever! But some Panther fans were demanding an apology as if Cam was some kinda repeat Referee offender, and Ax murderer. (or they just want a classy QB, NOT keeping in mind/comparing all other Qbs and listening to the media, just a want for a classy QB) The media will always pick on certain things Cam does and says (until they or the public get tired of it) (or until he wins games, but really who fuging cares?), cause they know draws interest and eyeballs. They don't care. (so why do Panther fans? This statement is basically my entire point.)

Yes, Cam should be called out on anything out of the ordinary he does (except by the media). However, anything that he does that's expected for his tenure or experience, he should be spoken to and expected to get better, but not castigated for it, like it's something rare or he's some leper That's what people have a problem with.

I don't have a major prblem with it whatsoever at this point, because I chalk it up to immarturity which can be fixed with experience. I never said it was unique to Cam, but it matter to me more because Cam is unique to me, being MY QB for 'MY' team. He has the talent. Right now, doesn't bother me, doesn't mean he doesn't have an issue. Doesn't mean I'll sit here and say the issue doesn't exist. I personally think he holds himself back when he gets down in the dumps, and I formed that opinion fom watching him, NOT from the media, and I hope he gets over it which I am sure he will as he grows. I am exited as a fan to see that day come.

Sometimes Panther fans act like Cam is their recalcitrant bad child who always gets in trouble, that needs to be constantly monitored and punished, when he's honestly been a model citizen since he's came in the NFL (actually since Blinn Junior College). The rest of it, is just Media BS, cause everyone has their own personality, and not everyone's the same.

I think Cam has a lot of class as far as off field issues, basically non-existant for Cam. I don't think he is a bad boy and I don't think he has character or leadership issues at all. I do think he needs to not let emotions get the better of him and he does need to realize that kind of vibe rubs off on his teamates. Cam himself agrees, and smitty agrees. And when Cam is called out for it, I'll agree, because it reaffirms what I already think seeing him play, as a fan, rather than give me some new concept on him from the media.

But according to the huddle I can't have this opinion, I can't have standards I want in my QB for my team because other Qbs of other teams aren't that way and the media says it too so it can't be a valid opinion, its just some BS formed around the media. Well, not all fans give a poo about the media and other qbs and these fans can still see some of the same things.

That'll be my last post here, too a bit of effort to explain where I'm coming from lol. Like I have said before, forming opinions through the hate of the media is just as bad as forming them through buying into media crap. Whether you hate the media for what it says or buy into what it says you deserve your own misery and invalid perspective because you care what the media thinks.

lol

mistyped/spelled words aren't that funny...I type without watching the key board and am too lazy most of the time, but I misspell things too because I am not perfect. I guess to people who think they're perfect, this is amusing...

[tiger7_88]

mistyped/spelled words aren't that funny...

They are when they are misspelled by people demanding perfection from others.

...I type without watching the key board and am too lazy most of the time, but I misspell things too because I am not perfect. I guess to people who think they're perfect, this is amusing...

I'm not demanding perfection from anyone. YOU are. Hold YOURSELF to those same standards and lets see how you do.