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Gettleman not sold on read option


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The first half of the season was very similar to the second half of the season in terms of utilizing the read option. We just tightened the formations. I'm willing to bet Cam had more rushing yards the last half of the season than he did the first half of the season

347 in the 1st half, 394 in the 2nd. He had more attempts in the 2nd half (68 vs. 59) and the YPC was pretty close (5.8 for 1st half, 5.7 for 2nd half).

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read option set up to throws for Griffen....despite his comp % he has not wow'd as a passer. He throws screens and the same route to the TE over the middle all game every game. Read option sets up his predictable passing game.

Not arguing that it hasn't been big for them. But I've seen enough of Griffen outside the option to see that he has more then enough arm and accuracy to get by on his passing. Coupled with a strong running unit and defense.

But there is a legit enough point seeing as they barley made it to the postseason

Though one team out of four doesn't really prove any significant point

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Cam hates losing just like Lebron. If you try to tie up their talent while the team is losing they will not like it. And we both know what happened with Lebron. Losing is one thing but losing while not giving all you can can't bode well for a player like Cam. A pure pocket passer would accept losing because the only way they can win is by throwing. But taking away a great player's dimension is unacceptable.

Yeah, except none of that is going to happen.

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I'm not saying that he shouldn't use his legs as a weapon. But sooner than later, other teams will catch on and shut it down. You'll see that happen to RGII (if he is healthy), Wilson, Kaep, etc next year.

He's going into his 3rd year as a NFL QB. He'll improve as a passer.

When that sooner or later come we can adapt too. If the 9ers were waiting for that sooner or later they wouldn't be in the superbowl. What if that sooner or later never come while Wilson & Kaep are raking in superbowls?

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When that sooner or later come we can adapt too. If the 9ers were waiting for that sooner or later they wouldn't be in the superbowl. What if that sooner or later never come while Wilson & Kaep are raking in superbowls?

You keep forgetting, the 49ers made the Conference finals last year with Alex Fuggin Smith!! Let that linger!

Yes, Kaepernick is good/more dangerous. But San Francisco is a talented, well coached and excellent team. That's why they're there (in the SuperBaugh) first and foremost.

And no one here is suggesting, eliminating the READ OPTION or shutting down Cam Breaking Containment runs, down field. Gettleman sure didn't.

All we're saying is: Cam is competent enough (and the record shows this), to operate out the pocket and use the threat of the Read Option, along with the Read Option itself as an added weapon and not a staple. Obviously, the opposing defenses the Panthers face in each game will/should determine the level of this? Nuff said!

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Kaepernick ran the read option all game against Atl.

Never ran while using it once

And the threat of it killed Atl. Now we have to scratch that from our offense because a guy who was involved in 2 of the luckiest superbowl ever have a better idea. Oh, well!

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hey blueboy got anymore antiquated racist anthro theory to spew in this thread too?

Lol. You're funny. I bet you've been looking for me, eh!

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And the threat of it killed Atl. Now we have to scratch that from our offense because a guy who was involved in 2 of the luckiest superbowl ever have a better idea. Oh, well!

You must have bad reading comprehension. We are NOT scratching it from our offense. We will NOT use it as our BASE formation. Read, comprehend then post. It's not that hard.

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How many fuggin times does it have to be said that no one here is advocating the complete removal of the read-option in our offense?

There is a difference between using it as our base and incorporating certain aspects of it.

San Fran/Seattle/Washington all had power run games and incorporated the RO to supplement. We had no power run game the first half of the season and relied on the RO. How well did that work out?

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hey blueboy got anymore antiquated racist anthro theory to spew in this thread too?

Well, to my defense, genetics when being debated as it pertains to humans, no matter how objective, inherently sound agenda driven. And in some ways it is since it's normally pointless to highlight those meaningless fact being that we're all the same species. Agree to disagree.

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347 in the 1st half, 394 in the 2nd. He had more attempts in the 2nd half (68 vs. 59) and the YPC was pretty close (5.8 for 1st half, 5.7 for 2nd half).

Thanks! I was just guessing off of what I saw re-watching the games (I usually keep them on DVR for at least 3 months after the season, with the exception of first ATL game. That game was deleted on that Sunday approximately 2 seconds after Bryant's field goal).

I honestly believe that the second half of the season we ran the read option from better personnel packages and our QB and O-Line executed it better. As far as the read option goes, those are the only two things that really changed.

The read option was not and is not the problem with this offense. It is execution.

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Cam hates losing just like Lebron. If you try to tie up their talent while the team is losing they will not like it. And we both know what happened with Lebron. Losing is one thing but losing while not giving all you can can't bode well for a player like Cam. A pure pocket passer would accept losing because the only way they can win is by throwing. But taking away a great player's dimension is unacceptable.

I am pretty sure that Cleveland was #1 or #2 in the East the year before Lebron left. He wasn't losing.

But I agree that taking away or limiting Cam's most important asset and the offense's best weapon is stupid.

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