Rivera talked to (wanted?) Norv

[rayzor]

Chud and Norv have been talking and planning that all season that's why the offense sputtered until the plan was worked out.

I don't believe for one second chud didn't know he had a hc job lined up.

he was their 11th choice.

[rayzor]

Why didn't Chud attempt to ****** Shula away with him?

apparently he's smarter than that.

[ThunderKatt]

But got the job, that's just propaganda. Chud had the job from the start of the season.

[rayzor]

But got the job, that's just propaganda. Chud had the job from the start of the season.

lol ok....

every coach they offered the job to turned them down or ran away. i'm sure that went just according to plan.

[ThunderKatt]

lol ok....

every coach they offered the job to turned them down or ran away. i'm sure that went just according to plan.

yea It's simple, take all of the control so they can run. Even Rivera isn't dumb enough to believe that's a coincidence.

[rscott94]

Chud screwed us again...

[rayzor]

yea It's simple, take all of the control so they can run. Even Rivera isn't dumb enough to believe that's a coincidence.

[ThunderKatt]

ok, so you think the CEO really called norv, if you buy that then that's what's funny.?

[rayzor]

that you think the plan was to act like they got rejected by 10 other candidates before asking chud to come in for an interview.

that is high comedy right there.

[Khaki Lackey]

chud and norv both chose to go to cleveland instead of being here.

not sure how that's them taking our rejects.

In regard to Norv, sure. In regard to Chud? I guarantee you there were more people in NC that wanted Chud to go to the Browns than there were in Cleveland.

[FootballMaestro]

It sounds like we were caught pretty off-guard by the Chud hiring. With it happening so fast, it seems like Chud had already set up a direct line to Norv before he was even hired. Which is pretty lame... We should have just fired him immediately and started talking to Norv before anything else could happen.

Agreed.

JR should have had the guts to fire Rivera.

And Rivera should have had the guts to fire Chud, if he--himself wasn't fired by JR.

However, Chud leaves; secures a deal with Cleveland to hire him if he brings Norv Turner along; taking him out of the running for OC at Carolina. Chud was one step ahead of Rivera all along.

Now, if Rivera really considered Norv in the first place (and not always wanted Shula), he should have fired Chud for mis-management of the offense the first half of the year, as well as his poor situational play calling through out the year--in the first place--right after the season ended.

When will Rivera ever learn?? He just bragged on the radio yesterday that he learned to stop being passive after the 8th game of the season. Well, if he really considered Chud as OC after he left, then he should have pulled the trigger against Chud's frequent Mad Scientist Experiments during the 2012 season all along!

I'm content with Shula. But slow you blow, if you're first choice was Turner, Ron!

[rayzor]

In regard to Norv, sure. In regard to Chud? I guarantee you there were more people in NC that wanted Chud to go to the Browns than there were in Cleveland.

doesn't matter.

he left on his own. he wasn't asked to. they weren't planning on it. they weren't expecting it. they were caught completely off gaurd.

the sad truth is, we didn't reject him. he rejected us and norv did as well.

[teeray]

Why didn't Chud attempt to ****** Shula away with him?

How do we know he didn't?

[hepcat]

Why didn't Chud attempt to ****** Shula away with him?

Because he knew that Shula would prob get promoted to OC in Carolina, and with Norv already at OC, the most he could offer him in Cleveland was QB coach.