Read option is here to stay

[Guest BlueBoy]

It will eventually be figured out, just like the wildcat was.

It's just a good wrinkle to have in the playbook, not as a base offense. Also the niners dont use it as a base its just sprinkled in here and there where its most effective.

Don't forget with the wildcat the offense had to change personnels just ot run it so the defense already knew what was coming.

another thing: you can't keep saying the read option is gonna be figured out EVERY year until we're all 6 feet under. lol

After next year, when it's NOT figured out, you have to stop saying that cause people will laugh at you. I certainly will.

[pstall]

so now you have to look at asst coaches who have a background in the RO. going forward.

but more importantly, a d cord who has shown how to stop it at the college level consistently. bcs champ games not withstanding

[Guest BlueBoy]

In order to even try to do that you would have to know exactly when the team is going to run the read option and what side it is being run to. That likely won't happen.

Also if you try to do that then the offensive coordinator will probably pull a guard and fullback to that side and just run power off tackle and shred the huge holes that will open up when the DE is over pursuing and leaves a gaping hole on that side leaving a running back running through a gaping hole with two lead blockers, Big run and likely TD city.

The third thing is the screen game and slant routes will blow that look up if you try to blitz constantly to take away the read option.

Could have have said it better. The read option is lethal.

[Guest BlueBoy]

so now you have to look at asst coaches who have a background in the RO. going forward.

but more importantly, a d cord who has shown how to stop it at the college level consistently. bcs champ games not withstanding

The problem is, it's even more lethal in college. Oregon is having a field day putting up 50 points per game on every DC with average players that barely get drafted.

[pstall]

Ore isn't winning the national champ tho.

[TopCat]

What team have figured it out? You mean the Failcon game? Figuring out doesn't mean letting the RB gut you all day long by only defending the QB.

I never said it did...Nor did I say the falcons figured it out lol.

[Guest BlueBoy]

The read option will NOT be figured out. It will boil down to the teams that have it and those that don't and want to have it. Tonight says it all. If Brady was an option QB that 4th & 4 would have been a big gain. And all those situation where there were no open WRs and brady having a lot of time to read the defense 5 times, on the fourth time he could have just ran and pick up a first down. Cam up! Brady down!

[lightsout]

People saying it's easy to stop clearly don't know much about mapping out blocking schemes.

The option (at least, the triple, which we have ran with success) is designed to outnumber you and to force them to "pick their poison". Speed helps stop it, sure, but if the blockers get where they are supposed to and pick their man up, as long as the QB and RBs involved execute, it's a guaranteed 5+ yard gain every time.

It is NOTHING like the wildcat. Maintain outside leverage, hold your gaps inside, you stop the wildcat. It's not nearly that simple with the option. Fill the gaps inside? OK, QB pulls. Maintain outside leverage? QB cuts it up. Again, as long as the blockers pick up their man, it's a big gain. Your only hope is to overload that side, but then the offense can just audible to a sweep away from the overload and at least pick up a small gain (most likely a big one though).

Having said ALL of that, like any play, you can't run it consistently at this level. Defenses have speed now. Lots of it. You have to catch them getting overly excited to stop the inside run and ignore the QB. As long as we ran it like we did at the end of the year, we're fine with it.

[pstall]

there is a reason a read option team hasn't won the NC in college. they go up against a stout sec(see nfl) caliber d and well, there ya go.

however, due to the trend coming, im more interested in the type of d that develops to consistenly stop it.

[teeray]

there is a reason a read option team hasn't won the NC in college. they go up against a stout sec(see nfl) caliber d and well, there ya go.

however, due to the trend coming, im more interested in the type of d that develops to consistenly stop it.

Dude, the QB of the franchise that this entire website is based around, ran a spread option offense in college and won a NC.

Florida also ran a lot of it with The Golden Calf of Bristol.

Both those teams chewed up SEC defenses as well all season long.

Edit: Sorry of that came off as dickish.

[pstall]

ran up against an sec team. keep that in mind. did UF play an sec team? aub?

ore ran one and i mentioned aub running it earlier.

[Guest BlueBoy]

there is a reason a read option team hasn't won the NC in college. they go up against a stout sec(see nfl) caliber d and well, there ya go.

however, due to the trend coming, im more interested in the type of d that develops to consistenly stop it.

Well, you haven't followed college football that much then. Cam won the national championship at Auburn in 2010. He was a read option QB there.

Medioce The Golden Calf of Bristol won a couple as well. Where have you been? Lol

Looks like you're going out of your way to discredit the read option even making things up. What's your agenda?

And the ONLY team that beat Alabama this year was a read option team. Do you need any more facts?

[carolina-chuck]

It's how you use the read option.

SF uses damn differently from Chud.

[mcdougal]

This is not a wrinkle that will be figured out. The Wildcat was and is nothing like the read option. If I were a braggart I would mention that I wrote about this very thing in 2010 as Cam was going through the draft process.

When I or others said that Cam could revolutionize the QB position, we were mainly talking about how scouts view QBs in the evaluation process. Before Cam's rookie year, being very mobile was considered either negligible benefit or even a hindrance.

The truth is, that the prototypical straight drop back QB is on the verge of extinction in college and high school. There will always be a premium on great passers. But what we have seen over the last 10 or so years is that prototypical QBs have become over valued in the scouting process. Basically, if you ran a pro style offense in college and could be even moderately competent you would get an automatic top two round grade.

I said then and I still believe now that the NFL is on the verge of a major change. Mainly because the athletic QB has become so commonplace in college that the NFL will have to adjust in order to expand the options at QB that are available.

And with the remarkable success of our offense (which is better than you guys act like it is), SF, Seattle, and Washington, NFL coaches are beginning to make this transition and will continue to do so unless college reverts back to more traditional offenses.

Of course, when I said this two years ago most on here laughed at me.

At the same time, it is too early to be too braggadocios, because the NFL defenses will continue to make adjustments. But in my opinion, it doesn't really matter what defenses do. If the QB can pass as well as run, it is virtually undefendable.

Thank you. People need to listen to Trent Dilfer talking about both the Pistol and the Read Option. It is a numbers game and a Geometry game. Will it work all the time? No. Will teams that run it always go the Superbowl? Heck No.

But it is no more a gimmick than WR reverses or WR screen passes or play action.

It is another play or formation that keeps the defense off their heels.

But the Option play works because we have QBs that can throw the ball as well as 'pocket passer.'