OK, so if no heir to Smitty is in our draft plans, or in the draft at all,then FA is critical

[rayzor]

you get the best player you can, and again i said either the draft, FA, or trade for one.

but you don't go into the season with this WR corps you have.

it doesn't have to be a julio/green elite stud. it just has to be a legit WR threat who can be a #1 guy if we need.

and i don't have to pick the guy because gettleman will be doing it for me.

[ThunderKatt]

you get the best player you can, and again i said either the draft, FA, or trade for one.

but you don't go into the season with this WR corps you have.

it doesn't have to be a julio/green elite stud. it just has to be a legit WR threat who can be a #1 guy if we need.

and i don't have to pick the guy because gettleman will be doing it for me.

so with our stable of wr who do we get rid of? We can't keep everyone.

also, I'd rather keep what we have and wait for the right gem because we still had a top rank offense with our rejects as you guys put it.

[koolkatluke]

you get the best player you can, and again i said either the draft, FA, or trade for one.

but you don't go into the season with this WR corps you have.

it doesn't have to be a julio/green elite stud. it just has to be a legit WR threat who can be a #1 guy if we need.

and i don't have to pick the guy because gettleman will be doing it for me.

We are not going to be able to afford a number 1 guy in FA. You might as well let that dream go.

And there is no sure Fire number 1 guy in this draft plain and simple.

This Draft has quantity not quality at the wr position.

Again you would waste a high pick on a guy that in reality wouldn't start from day one and isn't a sure thing as a number 1 wr.

[rayzor]

so with our stable of wr who do we get rid of? We can't keep everyone.

also, I'd rather keep what we have and wait for the right gem because we still had a top rank offense with our rejects as you guys put it.

who do we get rid of? we don't get rid of guys, we upgrade.

those who i would be trying to upgrade are edwards, gettis, murphy, and pilares. nothing really special about any of those guys.

adams has some big play making ability so i'm curious to see what he has. lafell is reliable. smitty is big time. the rest of them though? meh...i wouldn't have a problem trying to upgrade any of them.

i don't want to sit around and do nothing and wait for some aj green guy to fall into our laps, because i'm hoping we're never in a position for that to happen.

it's all about trying to add more dimension to the offense and putting it over the top. we're too one dimensional right now. we're too heavily dependent on the run game. we need to have an offense that can kill you several ways. we're good, we can be better.

[ThunderKatt]

Rayzor read the post above, so who do we take in the draft? I only saw one and he catches the ball with his body and not his hands which will affect yac

[Marguide]

So you're dealing in fantasy when I ask for facts.

I can easily say that Chud cost us the 1st game against the Bucs. With his trick plays and unwillingness to stop using the read option. When it was clear that it wasn't going to work against a college coach who had time to plan for it. He got us in to many 3rd and long plays and never got ahead of the chains. He abandon the run game way to early and used to many vertical pass plays when the O-line was getting eaten up.

This is why I place Blame on Chud for losing this game.

You see how easy that was and I didn't have to use if this player or that player was here stuff.

Ok, since you insist on being thickheaded, let me point out a few things...

1) If we had another weapon on offense, Chud may not have even used the same gameplan

2) Said receiver could have had a synergistic effect on our offense, making the other players more effective, especially for example, Smitty in the slot

3) Another downfield threat could have opened up our run game

But frankly, I expect most of this just goes right over your head.

[ThunderKatt]

I also want to say look at Atlanta, they had the best 3 receiving threats in the league and couldn't score in the 2nd half.

[rayzor]

We are not going to be able to afford a number 1 guy in FA. You might as well let that dream go.

And there is no sure Fire number 1 guy in this draft plain and simple.

This Draft has quantity not quality at the wr position.

Again you would waste a high pick on a guy that in reality wouldn't start from day one and isn't a sure thing as a number 1 wr.

the one that gettleman will find who can be that #1 guy won't be obvious to us. it will be a wes welker type guy that no one sees how valuable he can be.

it has to be something we take seriously. i don't care how good you think this WR corps is, it's not good enough and it can and should be upgraded. if gettleman thinks that there's a WR worthy of a first round pick, then we get him. if there's one worth a 2nd rounder then we get him. if there's one he thinks he'll be able to pick up in FA or via trade, then we get him and it will be worth it.

people just get too attached to mediocre talent around here. i'll never understand that.

our WR is weak by modern NFL standards. i'm sure there's some that are worse, but being better than the worst still sucks. we need to have a top level WR corps to match our top level defense, top level RB corps, and top level QB. yes, OL needs addressed as well, but just because there's not a julio in the draft doesn't mean we should rule WR out.

[rayzor]

I also want to say look at Atlanta, they had the best 3 receiving threats in the league and couldn't score in the 2nd half.

it's because they aren't balanced and have a habit of choking...but they wouldn't have been there in the first place were it not for them having the receiving corps they have.

[rayzor]

Ok, since you insist on being thickheaded, let me point out a few things...

1) If we had another weapon on offense, Chud may not have even used the same gameplan

2) Said receiver could have had a synergistic effect on our offense, making the other players more effective, especially for example, Smitty in the slot

3) Another downfield threat could have opened up our run game

But frankly, I expect most of this just goes right over your head.

yep.

better WR threats opens everything up.

[ThunderKatt]

I'm not saying to rule out a wr but I think we can find one in the 6th or 7th like we did gettis

[ThunderKatt]

Personally, I want to build up the defense with the first picks so we can compete highly in our division. We have one of the toughest divisions to compete in when you look at their offenses. We need a defense that makes them cringe when they see us on the schedule.

[koolkatluke]

Ok, since you insist on being thickheaded, let me point out a few things...

1) If we had another weapon on offense, Chud may not have even used the same gameplan

2) Said receiver could have had a synergistic effect on our offense, making the other players more effective, especially for example, Smitty in the slot

3) Another downfield threat could have opened up our run game

But frankly, I expect most of this just goes right over your head.

There we go with the fantasy again.

"if we had this or that this may have happened"

I choose to deal with reality. And reality is CHUD

Forgot Tolbert and the RB for most of the season.

CHUD forgot Olsen for Halfs of games.

Chud hardly ever used Barnige (who was finally healthy).

So in reality who knows what Chud would have done becuase he was barely using the weapons he had for most of the season.

[rayzor]

I'm not saying to rule out a wr but I think we can find one in the 6th or 7th like we did gettis

because that kind of thing happens all the time.

and gettis? meh....