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If a sure-fire WR1 is not available after our first 2 picks, should we wait? Presuming we go Line with 1 and 2

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The falcons did that because they have a Qb who needs that to be successful. Great Qb like I think we have makes his weapons better.

Brady won superbowls with no name wr. Brees makes his wr better. Rodgers makes his wr better.

Our Wr weren't the problem this year our OC was.

That's not the case here. Though Cam brought back an old Smitty who many thought was finished, he's not Brady or Brees.

Cam isn't going to make Lafell, Murphy or Gettis better. We have to give better receivers for Cam in order for him and this offense to be better.

We threw the ball more than we ran it and Lafell or Murphy wasn't able to do much. What makes you think they'll be more successful if we go to a more balance offense. It's not completely the OC fault. Sometimes you just gotta realize Lafell isn't that no.2 WR.

Cam isn't goin to win SB with no name receivers. Lets just get that outta the way

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Yep! Todays game has change. It's hard for a team to win with just one true no.1 WR like a Calvin or Larry. Its a pass happy offense that you have a lot of true no.2 WR looking like no.1. It's a receivers by committee group.

For example, look at Baltimore. Torrey Smith back then would look like what he is, a no.2 WR in any offense. Now even though he's a no.2 receiver hes one who can stretch the field. He completely destroyed Champ last weekend.

Also GB has a bunch of no.1 receivers that won't look like theyre no.1 (that go to guy). The ball is being spread everywhere on the field. Everyone is going to do their part. I rather have two no.1 receivers who can stretch the field than a true go to guy in today's offense.

Hopkins, Twill and Rogers seemed like they're guys who can score tds. That's what we need.

yep. the "feed the stud" mindset is flying out the door.

better than having one true stud is having a solid committee. you don't need a smitty replacement. you need a solid corps. if you have 3-4 WRs going out every down in addition to the TE(s) and RBs making themselves available, and you have the running threat of cam, there should always be solid options if your WRs don't suck.

you can get by with a few 2-4th rounders on your team. packers, pats, and saints have been doing that for years. more teams are going to be catching on to that as the spread spreads.

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Let's quit the Lafell talk. If I'm not mistaken we had this debate for a good while early before the season. We seen what happened. Lafell goes invisible in games constantly and he's not one who'll get you a lot of tds.

I think that Twill, Hopkins and Rogers can give that 500+ yards in limited actions as a rookie. But they'll be able to score tds by stretching the field like a Torrey Smith. They're better receiver IMO than Lafell. I see them being consistent receivers who are not going to go invisible in games.

Oh I'm so glad you brought that up. Do you remember who you were going Gaga for last draft?

Let me remind you when you were making this same dumb argument.

Stephen Hill From Gtech 6'4 215 running a 4.37 in the forty. You and others went crazy for him.

21 rec. 252 yards 3 TD in 11 games played. How did that work out?

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Oh I'm so glad you brought that up. Do you remember who you were going Gaga for last draft?

Let me remind you when you were making this same dumb argument.

Stephen Hill From Gtech 6'4 215 running a 4.37 in the forty. You and others went crazy for him.

21 rec. 252 yards 3 TD in 11 games played. How did that work out?

He's a rookie who is very raw. The Jets were badd at QB and eveywhere else. I blame Sanchez, but if you remember Hill started the first week of the season with 2tds.

Hill will be legit given a better QB production. I see Hill being just as good as D. Thomas of Denver if giving a real QB.

You can't tell me Hill is a bust already. I would've been happy if we had Hill over Amini.

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That's not the case here. Though Cam brought back an old Smitty who many thought was finished, he's not Brady or Brees.

Cam isn't going to make Lafell, Murphy or Gettis better. We have to give better receivers for Cam in order for him and this offense to be better.

We threw the ball more than we ran it and Lafell or Murphy wasn't able to do much. What makes you think they'll be more successful if we go to a more balance offense. It's not completely the OC fault. Sometimes you just gotta realize Lafell isn't that no.2 WR.

Cam isn't goin to win SB with no name receivers. Lets just get that outta the way

Yeah the oline should share some blame to but our Wr's weren't the problem. We were top 5 in least drop category. And if we ran the ball more and played in more a traditional offense from the start maybe their numbers would be better.

Brandon still had solid numbers when you considered he missed 2 games and the lead wr only had 73 rec and the same amount of TD.

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He's a rookie who is very raw. The Jets were badd at QB and eveywhere else. I blame Sanchez, but if you remember Hill started the first week of the season with 2tds.

Hill will be legit given a better QB production. I see Hill being just as good as D. Thomas of Denver if giving a real QB.

You can't tell me Hill is a bust already. I would've been happy if we had Hill over Amini.

Cho cho cho!!! All aboard the excuse train!

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You knoe I'm right

I think that you are right in that the story has not been written on Hill, much like to a lesser extent that it hasn't been written on Blackmon. Two receivers with crappy QB play that obviously affected their bottom line. Hill's problem---which may be a very big problem---is that he reportedly has the dropsies.

But rather Hill or Amini turns out to be a better value is still in question.

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I think that you are right in that the story has not been written on Hill, much like to a lesser extent that it hasn't been written on Blackmon. Two receivers with crappy QB play that obviously affected their bottom line. Hill's problem---which may be a very big problem---is that he reportedly has the dropsies.

But rather Hill or Amini turns out to be a better value is still in question.

How about the fact he didn't know how to run all the routes you need to be a wr. He is no better the Lamont Bryant.

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