Manti Te'o lied about his Girlfriend dying

[mr beauxjangles]

The best case scenario at this point for Te'o is that Ronaiah comes clean and admits that he duped Te'o. It is then clear that Te'o, before finding out that he was tricked, lied about meeting her and then misled the media regarding the degree of his relationship with this woman. Once he found out he was duped, he then perpetuated the lie to avoid the shame. So...best case scenario is still that he is naive and a liar. And how many NFL teams are going to look for a defensive leader in a guy that fell in love with someone he never met, was so easily deceived, and then continued to carry on a lie once he learned of it for his own benefit - to minimize shame and damage to his public profile, Heisman chances,and draft stock? As more and more come out with stories that Ronaiah was behind it all and felt guilty about it eventually, I believe that Te'o was legitimately tricked at first. But the fact that he was tricked, embelleshed the degree of his relationship, and then perpetuated the lie completely destroys his value as a "leader" or even a respectable teammate in the NFL.

This is looking to me like a Vontaze Burfict situation all over again. Maybe he'll turn out to be a stud in the NFL, but there isn't a chance in hell that a team is going to draft him in the first round.

[Cary Kollins]

really? Becaue I can name much more Christians and Catholics that do crazier poo than this. Religion has nothing to do with it except give the media something to add it for controversial means and prey on individuals like you whoe do no research or have no facts but just believe the regurgitated, commercilized, sterotypical view.

I'm not mormon, but I was raised mormon and there are differences even within the faith just like Christians, Jews, Buddhist and Catholics really any other realigion. Modern LDS members are very nice, good, honest poeple. THere are crazy traditionalists (like EVERY religion, who believe unaccepted things) but just because someone is Mormon doesn't mean they believe anything more 'crazy' or wacked out than anyone else. Yea Mormon history of lots of wives etc., is not appealing to the masses but it's not any more whacked out then some of the poo Christians believe either. Don't even get me started on Christian/Catholic history, if you want to talk about some truley crazy poo. It's just more widley accepted so they don't get crtisized or doubted.

Kinda hard to say who is 'crazy' in a world of myth and faith, isn't it?

(no offense to catholics or christians, just the more accepted religions in the U.S.)

Yea I don't think every single Mormon is some wacko...but Te'o seems to be pretty deep in his religious beliefs, which happens to be Mormon. I watched that "undercover" vid on youtube showing the practices inside a Mormon temple. It's terrifying we almost had someone that believes in that stuff in the White House...Romney had the pathological liar thing down pat as well.

I agree that Catholics and Christians and just about every organized religion has crazy fairytale stuff going on too...but that is a topic for the Tinderbox.

[Icege]

Honestly, the bad part is how do you know who or what to believe?

Let's say he comes out with a "here's the real truth" statement: deceived, gay, in on it, whatever.

Knowing that he's already been caught in more than one lie, will people believe him?

(frankly, why should they?)

That's a big reason for my total lack of interest.

[Anybodyhome]

Could this thread actually become one of the longest running on the board?

[h0llywood]

It's only what, day 2 or 3? Wait until Teo comes out and admits his part if any.

[CarolinaCoolin]

That's what I said, that he wasn't in on it at first. However, when he did find out the facts he still talked her up.

You are correct sir. Probably cause he was embrassed

[CarolinaCoolin]

The best case scenario at this point for Te'o is that Ronaiah comes clean and admits that he duped Te'o. It is then clear that Te'o, before finding out that he was tricked, lied about meeting her and then misled the media regarding the degree of his relationship with this woman. Once he found out he was duped, he then perpetuated the lie to avoid the shame. So...best case scenario is still that he is naive and a liar. And how many NFL teams are going to look for a defensive leader in a guy that fell in love with someone he never met, was so easily deceived, and then continued to carry on a lie once he learned of it for his own benefit - to minimize shame and damage to his public profile, Heisman chances,and draft stock? As more and more come out with stories that Ronaiah was behind it all and felt guilty about it eventually, I believe that Te'o was legitimately tricked at first. But the fact that he was tricked, embelleshed the degree of his relationship, and then perpetuated the lie completely destroys his value as a "leader" or even a respectable teammate in the NFL.

This is looking to me like a Vontaze Burfict situation all over again. Maybe he'll turn out to be a stud in the NFL, but there isn't a chance in hell that a team is going to draft him in the first round.

He's getting drafted in the first. If not in the top ten then Baltimore takes him with their pick

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

I think he murdered her...

Also he will still be a first round pick..and be a very good MLB...just made fun of for about 3 years..

[Growl]

The same four people keep bumping this thread acting as if it's the world changing story of our generation.

This really isnt, on the grand scale of things, that big a deal. There isnt a single distant chance he goes undrafted, and Id be willing to say he still quite possibly goes in the first (I personally had him pegged as a top level second round prospect anyways so that combined with this may knock him in there.) But people acting like this is some groundbreaking story that crushes the lives of thousands are just trying to amp themselves up emotionally because they think theyre supposed to. This doesnt even touch the Armstrong story.

[g5jamz]

Maybe he and that Arizona player are secretly a gay couple.

[Chief Keek]

[Scrumtrilescent]

LOL.

[Harris Aballah]

The same four people keep bumping this thread acting as if it's the world changing story of our generation.

This really isnt, on the grand scale of things, that big a deal. There isnt a single distant chance he goes undrafted, and Id be willing to say he still quite possibly goes in the first (I personally had him pegged as a top level second round prospect anyways so that combined with this may knock him in there.) But people acting like this is some groundbreaking story that crushes the lives of thousands are just trying to amp themselves up emotionally because they think theyre supposed to. This doesnt even touch the Armstrong story.

I agree to the point that espn and the rest of the news media didn't help perpetuate and cover up armstrongs story. The focus here should be the absolute disregard demonstrated by the media. disregard for facts and the audience. I feel as though by covering it up,(or telling thier own version, even though they have all the same info as the rest of us) that they think we are all stupid.

[Proudiddy]

Whatever it is, Tuiasosopo needs to seek mental help.

Secondly, Te'o was in the wrong regardless because even if he was embarrassed, he could've just not mentioned the story any longer and let it die down once he knew... Instead, he kept up the facade and incriminated himself in the process. He needs to come clean either way because the longer he stays silent, the more guilty he is.