Gettleman: "If the ink is dry and you aren't happy, you did something wrong"

[panthers55]

You are giving him too much credit by referring to contracts on the rookie scale. Second contracts are where he killed us (as you point out). He guaranteed so much $$ that we cannot get out of them. Players have no incentive to perform at a high level. It was as if Peppers convinced him that others wanted out too, so he desperately felt that he had to overpay current players. He did not go free agent for the same reason: who wants to come here? SO he overpaid Panthers and found free agents at the bottom of the barrel. You gotta believe in the product or you cannot sell it.

Some of these terrible contracts were inked in 2011 when indeed no one did want to play for us......

[rayzor]

hurney overcompensated for the "cheap" label the team was getting.

[MHS831]

Some of these terrible contracts were inked in 2011 when indeed no one did want to play for us......

I know. Are you saying that he had no choice? Would you have done these deals as the GM? (Not being a smart a$$, I just want to know if you agreed with them, based on this statement). I felt there was some panic in the ink that has since snowballed. That is when it started--unless you go back to Jake.

[MHS831]

Do not know what happened. sorry.

[MHS831]

Double post

[panthers55]

I know. Are you saying that he had no choice? Would you have done these deals as the GM? I felt there was some panic in the ink that has since snowballed. That is when it started--unless you go back to Jake.

Since you asked 3 times I will answer, LOL. I think overpaying for Williams was hard to avoid if you felt Newton would struggle and that we had to have a great running game and were coming off a 2-14 year. Maybe not as much as we paid but surely it would have cost us over market. The problem was paying so much and using him so poorly. After all we paid Johnson a king's ransom for the same reason, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that one because he has been productive. If Williams had gotten the work and ran for 1200 yards each of the past 2 years, the bitching would have been a tenth of what it is now.

[Kevin Greene]

Aye, Johnson does also have a massive contract.

/29/2011: Signed a six-year, $76 million contract. The deal contains $32 million guaranteed, including a $30 million signing bonus. An annual $250,000 workout bonus is available in years two through six. 2013: $6.75 million, 2014: $8.75 million, 2015: $9.75 million, 2016: $10.75 million, 2017: Free Agent

Of course I imagine another factor in paying CJ so damned much money was the Peppers contract debacle and the thought of losing CJ was more than hurney could deal with.

[panthers55]

Aye, Johnson does also have a massive contract.

Of course I imagine another factor in paying CJ so damned much money was the Peppers contract debacle and the thought of losing CJ was more than hurney could deal with.

That and productive defensive ends are usually paid very handsomely.

[KendrickPanther]

He just comes off as a football guy. He doesn't pander to the fans or to the media. He just knows and loves football. So many of the Hurney moves defied football logic.