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Panthers interested in Pat Shurmur for vacant OC position


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    • Poor Bryce Life is just so unfair  sick of this justification  #1 picks  should be a bit more than a game manager and a ‘point guard’   Totally stupid take by the Panthers  Dont fret, he will have $38 million to make up for all the injustices he has endured  He, his family and agent, all were  also smart enough to fleece the Gm and owner of the Panthers  Bill Parcells said it best when said about Young as the number 1 pick given his ohysical limitations in a big man’s game  ‘he better walk in water’   He doesnt i want Josh Allen, not a point guard who cant see over the line and cant throw a 50 yard pass to the end zone  michah parson showed clearly what Young is  that Cowboys  defense had ZERO fear of Young’s arm   We have seen that since he has been here     
    • I was out on him before we ever picked him and I'm still right. He should be traded in the offseason and his 'improvement' as remedial as it is should help with that is the positive. He isn't it and the growth is going nowhere. He doesn't have it and there isn't a team in the league that's talented enough to make him look good. Just because he isn't racing Russel for biggest bust ever doesn't change the fact of how bad he is and what his limited game he can play does to the offense. 2 years the opponents have played down to the Panthers and for 2 years that is a reason for false hope. And then games happen like on Sunday when a opponent shows up hurt and angry and shows the reality of the situation. It's a dead end.  
    • Well I'm glad we can see eye to eye on that but it appears there are still other people not convinced. I see the Bryce situation as this. First season the team around him was bad. He was also quite bad too. Second season we went the extra mile and then some via steep investment in free agency and the draft to attempt to solve this dilemma and to the detriment of the defensive roster in the meantime. Now fast forward to 14 games into the season and we've spent a significant amount of discussion on both the defense that we put on the back burner for Bryce Young and the additions we brought in. Some of that is logical. But we have to circle back to where this all began. Bryce was billed as a franchise changing QB who would not need elite talent across the board. That cannot be stressed enough. So to me these discussions about his supporting cast or lack thereof eventually lead to me asking when does he begin elevating those around him instead of the other way around? That's what a first overall pick is supposed to do.
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