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All signs point to Shula...


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I dont see what the problem with promoting shula is. We don't need an offensive mastermind running this team. We are littered with playmakers on offense, we need some back to basics plays. There is this route that requires a 3 step drop and gets the ball out of the quarterbacks hands quickly... its called a... slant? I think? I'm not sure it's been so long since I've seen one.

Regardless, we can keep Chud's plays in the playbook, just be a bit more realistic about what is called. Keep the read option and triple options down to about 5 plays a game. Run it up the middle occasionally, even if its for little or no gain it will bring the safeties up and prevent defensive ends from pinning their ears back and gunning for the backfield every play.

Think Mike Vick in Atlanta. I mean yea it was a failure but mostly because Vick couldn't pass worth a damn, but you put Cam in the same style of offense (no gimmicks or option plays, just a QB that can take off if need be with a good run game) and he's going to tear it up. We have the tools to run a similar style offense in a good pass catching TE, and a good backfield that can trade power for finesse and vice-versa.

You don't see the problem with promoting a guy who has been a total failure at the position you're promoting him to?

I get wanting to be safe, but Shula is not safe. There are better options for a safe offense.

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Since day one, the only coach in this staff I had issues with is Shula. Cam is entering his 3rd year with issues with fundamentals like footwork and accuracy. I want a QB coach that will turn Cam into a big Aaron Rogers, plus the running ability.

I am not exactly crushed that Chud is gone. We'll be fine, but we gotta be careful who we get to replace him. Go after Norv and give him all the money he wants. It will be a great investment

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Since day one, the only coach in this staff I had issues with is Shula. Cam is entering his 3rd year with issues with fundamentals like footwork and accuracy. I want a QB coach that will turn Cam into a big Aaron Rogers, plus the running ability.

I am not exactly crushed that Chud is gone. We'll be fine, but we gotta be careful who we get to replace him. Go after Norv and give him all the money he wants. It will be a great investment

yeah you know that norv is confirmed going to cleveland right

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You don't see the problem with promoting a guy who has been a total failure at the position you're promoting him to?

I get wanting to be safe, but Shula is not safe. There are better options for a safe offense.

Yea he was a total failure 15 years ago. You don't think he's learned anything by now? I'm sure he's aware of why he got fired. If they guy was completely inept he wouldn't be in the NFL this long.

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Yea he was a total failure 15 years ago. You don't think he's learned anything by now? I'm sure he's aware of why he got fired. If they guy was completely inept he wouldn't be in the NFL this long.

So you'd rather promote a guy with a history of failure on the chance that he "may not be completely inept" over finding a guy like John Ramsdell who actually has experience with running a coryell and is a promising up and comer?

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So you'd rather promote a guy with a history of failure on the chance that he "may not be completely inept" over finding a guy like John Ramsdell who actually has experience with running a coryell and is a promising up and comer?

No all I'm saying is if Shula is moved up we shouldn't act like its the end of the world. If Shula is moved up solely based on the fact he's "next in line", then yes there is concern. If a good amount of candidates are looked over and we still go with Shula then I'm fine with that.

Shula has had success coaching quarterbacks recently and if the only knock on him was excessively conservative playcalling then I'm not overly concerned - it's really not that difficult of a flaw to change, and he learned from the best at doing the opposite of conservative playcalling (CHUD). As an OC he never had the talent of a guy like Cam, and he's also the only guy who actually works directly with Cam. He's the guy who talks to Cam after every drive, I'm sure he's gotten an idea of what Cam likes, what he hates and where his comforts lie.

edit: Also many coaches have failed at one point and went on to be incredibly successful. People learn, people adapt and they prosper.

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If Shula is promoted to OC, what would you think about Chris Weinke as QB coach. He worked with Cam both offseasons and

is a former Panther. That way he could work with Cam during and after the season. Thoughts !

I'm not sure if the Wankster would want to leave what he has now to be a QB Coach for the Panthers for 1 year maybe longer.

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Zod is a beautiful troll. So subtle. Employs a perfect blend of fact and fiction to play on peoples fears. Only responds to posts as necessary to keep the embers smoldering, keeping it alive without bursting into flames. I have much to learn.

What was that again?

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