Chud to interview with the Browns?

[Pimpdaddy]

...we just keep swapping sht between us (pathers, browns) and wonder why we're not better...

[Johnny Rockets]

For the people that seem to be so in love with Norv Turner as an OC please explain why? I never understood why people think he is such a good one. Year in and year out he has probably been the most wildly inconsistant HC I have ever seen and as an OC he hasn't done a d*mn thing that I can rememeber since his days with Aikman and Emmit.

[Mr. Scot]

For the people that seem to be so in love with Norv Turner as an OC please explain why? I never understood why people think he is such a good one. Year in and year out he has probably been the most wildly inconsistant HC I have ever seen and as an OC he hasn't done a d*mn thing that I can rememeber since his days with Aikman and Emmit.

Because while he's been lousy as a head coach, he's been a great offensive coordinator every time he's been in that role. Arguably one of the best in the league.

That, plus since he runs a Coryell system (Chudzinski was a pupil) you could expect the transition would be easier for Cam Newton.

[CRA]

Good chance they're losing Josh Cribbs though.

If he wanted a two-back system like he had here last season, trading for one of our guys would make sense.

(all of which is moot if he doesn't get the job, of course)

No NFL GM is going to pay 2 RBs like Marty Hurney did.

[Sword]

Because while he's been lousy as a head coach, he's been a great offensive coordinator every time he's been in that role. Arguably one of the best in the league.

That, plus since he runs a Coryell system (Chudzinski was a pupil) you could expect the transition would be easier for Cam Newton.

the only time I can think of where he would be considered "great" would be the 91-93 period where he had 3 Hall of Famers and many more outstanding players to coach. His OC stints with the Chargers,Dolphins, and Niners are nothing to write home about.

[Johnny Rockets]

Because while he's been lousy as a head coach, he's been a great offensive coordinator every time he's been in that role. Arguably one of the best in the league.

That, plus since he runs a Coryell system (Chudzinski was a pupil) you could expect the transition would be easier for Cam Newton.

We will have to agree to disagree then...other than when he was part of the dominate Cowboys team of the early 90's (20 years ago) he has not done anything really.

2001 Chargers were 5-11. Sure that was an improvement over the previous year but having LT on the team sure did help and 5-11 is nothing to write home about.

2002-2003 Dolphins both missed the playoffs both years for the first time in over half a decade after he took over as OC.

2006 49ers - yes they improved over the previous year but still no winning record; finished 7-9.

I know that doesn't tell the whole tale of the tape and records don't prove anything about an OC but that is his resume as an OC in the last decade. I just don't see how he is considered by so many as one of the best in the league and dumping Chud and getting him would be the answer. Not necessarily and inictment on Turner but more of a backing of Chud staying.

Anyway, thanks for the debate to help pass the day!

[rayzor]

Because while he's been lousy as a head coach, he's been a great offensive coordinator every time he's been in that role. Arguably one of the best in the league.

That, plus since he runs a Coryell system (Chudzinski was a pupil) you could expect the transition would be easier for Cam Newton.

the biggest concern i have about turner and one that i've brought up before and no one has said anything about is how would turner include cam's running ability? i don't know how mobile a QB he's had in the past and if it was something that he utilized. i don't know how progressive he is.

if he doesn't allow for cam to run, we will constantly be leaving yardage and points on the table.

turner just seems too old school to me. i think that the game is starting to pass him by as well.

[Boltergeist]

Im of the persuasion that Chud reminds me way too much of Cam Cameron to be a successful head coach.

Well CC was the OC in SD during Chud's first stint.

[rodeo]

the only time I can think of where he would be considered "great" would be the 91-93 period where he had 3 Hall of Famers and many more outstanding players to coach. His OC stints with the Chargers,Dolphins, and Niners are nothing to write home about.

I would certainly write home about them, and I have, my mom has asked me to please stop.

He brought the Niners a top 10 offense in 2006 after being terrible and shut out many times the years before. He took the Dolphins to 10-6 with frickin Jay Fiedler at QB. The only bad stint was his year as OC for the Chargers, but they were coming off a 1-15 season and were just an absolutely dreadful team.

[CardiacCats]

Okay after thinking about it all day I don't want to lose Chud. At all. Look how much the O improved when he realized the read option wasn't working and how bad the line was.

[rodeo]

Okay after thinking about it all day I don't want to lose Chud. At all. Look how much the O improved when he realized the read option wasn't working and how bad the line was.

But look at how long it took him to "realize" (aka be forced by Rivera to change) that. We all recognized it in week 2 and 3, but he didn't do anything about it until week 11.

[CardiacCats]

But look at how long it took him to "realize" (aka be forced by Rivera to change) that. We all recognized it in week 2 and 3, but he didn't do anything about it until week 11.

i mean if we got a Norv Turner in return, that's great but I don't want Cam having to learn a whole new offense already. Also Norv wouldn't come here where he has 1 year to make the playoffs if he had other offers. It could be so much worse

[rodeo]

Norv has openly stated he'd like to work with his friends and coaches he's familiar with. That may counter balance whatever trepidation the hot seat brings.

[poorboysrev]

If Chud stays then Rivera better plan on shoving his right fist up his ass all next season, making the Chud puppet say " I will run the F#$king ball prostyle,with a fullback, and my QB will not lead the team in rushing." Problem solved.