Question About Trading?

[chknwing]

If Carolina was to want to trade a player for a draft pick, whose eligible? I know it was said Deangelo cant really be traded until june, so who else?

[jgraham]

Did I read Gamble mentioned as being one available to do this with?

I may have mis-read that though but I'm sure I read he was one who could/should be cut given the ability of players we have who did well in his absence.

[C47]

You can trade DeAngelo, but it carries a significant cap hit as his remaining signing bonus accelerates immediately if you don't do it after June 1, same with Beason. Most likely trade candidates (out of the big name players on this team) for draft time would be Gamble/Gross....

[rayzor]

i'd rather trade draft picks for players.

preferably any pick after the second.

we need more vets, experience, and proven players.

unfortunately we also need more cap space which will probably prohibit picking up more vets.

[Mr. Scot]

You can trade DeAngelo, but it carries a significant cap hit as his remaining signing bonus accelerates immediately if you don't do it after June 1, same with Beason. Most likely trade candidates (out of the big name players on this team) for draft time would be Gamble/Gross....

Yep. Any player can be traded once the trade period starts (same day as free agency) but cap and contract considerations make some more difficult to trade than others.

Only other thing which might prevent it is if a guy had a "no trade" clause in his contract. From what I know, those are pretty rare in the NFL. A few of the superstars might be able to get that sort of thing but most players can't.

[Thorrez]

Yep. Any player can be traded once the trade period starts (same day as free agency) but cap and contract considerations make some more difficult to trade than others.

Only other thing which might prevent it is if a guy had a "no trade" clause in his contract. From what I know, those are pretty rare in the NFL. A few of the superstars might be able to get that sort of thing but most players can't.

A large sign-on bonus is in reality a no trade clause as it makes the player untradable for cap reasons.

For the original question:

It is the same thing as cutting a player. So read the threads about that and the same rules apply (expect I guess the June 1 rule does not apply). So DeAngelo is not tradable this off season unless we want a (almost) $10M cap hit.

[Mr. Scot]

A large sign-on bonus is in reality a no trade clause as it makes the player untradable for cap reasons.

Yeah, you could say that :lol:

I think it was the 49ers who first started using signing bonuses as a way to give players more money but keep their cap number down. These days some of those bonus amounts are so high that it winds up coming back to bite teams on the rump.

[Marguide]

A large sign-on bonus is in reality a no trade clause as it makes the player untradable for cap reasons.

For the original question:

It is the same thing as cutting a player. So read the threads about that and the same rules apply (expect I guess the June 1 rule does not apply). So DeAngelo is not tradable this off season unless we want a (almost) $10M cap hit.

Trades are handled just like cuts, so yes, the June 1 rule applies to trades too.

[MrBubba]

Can you make an early trade and designate it a June 1st trade like you can with cuts??

[Marguide]

Can you make an early trade and designate it a June 1st trade like you can with cuts??

I don't believe so. Everything I've read said it is just for released players. That may be wrong though because logically they should be handled the same.