Observer article regarding Rivera/GM

[rayzor]

I remember I brought up a thread during the season in which I said we needed to hire our guy ASAP and I got a bunch of "we have plenty of time, blah blah blah..."

Well, I don't think many have considered this... Now that we've retained Rivera to this point, it's a sign that we're keeping him. Now, for those of you thinking we're going to go out and hire a big name GM, guess what? What new "big name" GM is wanting to come into an organization that has held onto their coach from the previous year so that they can't fully assert control over the football operations?

And now we're getting to the point that saying, "If he's not your guy, bring your guy in..." to any prospective GM candidate is a fallacy. We've strung it out long enough that likely even if we found a GM to come in with Rivera already in place and they fired him, who are they going to replace him with?

Just looking like a big build up to nothing.

the problem was that we couldn't talk to really anyone deserving the job until the season was over.

there was literally nothing that could be done other than researching people and even then you couldn't call their team and talk about them or really call around without tipping your hat early.

and the fact that we haven't fired rivera yet isn't a sign that we aren't going to fire him. not necessarily anyway. it could be that is a call they want the new GM to make.

if JR is concerned about being competitive, i can't imagine he's thrilled with the record rivera has put up so far and the fact that it took so long for him to "trend upward", esp. if he was never actually completely sold on rivera like some have suggested.

i doubt it would take much encouraging from the new GM to move on from rivera if he wanted to.

that said, JR isn't a guy that likes change and takes waaaayyyyy too long to make decisions and if you think that firing hurney happened quickly, i'd counter with hurney should have been let go when fox was.

[mwright350]

As aggravated as I am about the delay and as annoyed as convinced as I am that the longer this goes on the less likely it is we will fire Rivera I don't think we've passed the point of no return as far as getting rid of him, I also don't think, if the meeting actually happens tomorrow, that delay means he's staying.

If JR is really going to decide what to do and not the new GM then it is possible that the delay was so he could review the end of the season (possibly Accorsi as well) and make a decision with his full body of work after Hurney was let go.

I will not be at all surprised if Rivera is retained and given a year under a new GM to continue improvement, in fact I expect it, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion either. Richardson might come up tomorrow and let him go.

[Upper Deck West End Zone]

GM candidates coming in on Monday.

This process is moving with the funereal rapidity of a Hardee's drive-thru.

[iamhubby1]

I completely agree with this. No GM will want to come in to somebody else guy. They want their own guy most of the time. You are pretty much limiting your choice of candidates if you tell them that they have to stick with Rivera.

Now see, why is this a rule? A new GM must bring in his own guy. Why is it against all possibilities that a Ross or Gettlemen won't keep Rivera?

Said it a million times. You folks slay me.

[Mr. Scot]

GM candidates coming in on Monday.

This process is moving with the funereal rapidity of a Hardee's drive-thru.

In fairness, nobody else has hired a GM yet either. Don't know if anyone's even interviewed yet.

Coaching interviews, and one possible hire, yes. But I don't know that anyone else's GM search is that much faster than ours.

[Mr. Scot]

Now see, why is this a rule? A new GM must bring in his own guy. Why is it against all possibilities that a Ross or Gettlemen won't keep Rivera?

Said it a million times. You folks slay me.

It's not at all unusual for a new GM to give an existing coach a shot to prove himself.

[iamhubby1]

It's not at all unusual for a new GM to give an existing coach a shot to prove himself.

I realize that a few around here believe this thought. But as a rule, most folks "Just know" that our new GM will want his own coach. It amazes me how the average fan just knows what will happen. Especially with the dirth of "Quality" coaches available.

I mean, come off it with the just replace Rivera with another coach and we are gold. That is not necessarily true.

The problem with most folks around here is the fact that we have not been as successful as they want. So they rail against the statu quo. Wanting change just for change sake. I see progress. And I just don't believe our new GM will dismantle this staff and start over.

Oh well, just preaching to the choir. What few of them there actually are anyway.

[carpanfan96]

In fairness, nobody else has hired a GM yet either. Don't know if anyone's even interviewed yet.

Coaching interviews, and one possible hire, yes. But I don't know that anyone else's GM search is that much faster than ours.

Chargers started interviews on Tuesday with Raye and have continued since then.

The Jaguars are pretty far along in the process with David Caldwell. He's had two interviews with the Jaguars so far.

The Cardinals are starting the process this weekend as well.

The Chiefs will either bring in Heckart as the GM.

Lets see the Jets are starting Interviews this weekend, Rex Ryan isn't involved at all in the process.

The Panther's I'd expect to start this weekend after JR get's back. There's three targets and one of them will get hired and It'll most likely be on Monday when that happens after they've all had their interviews.

Edit: To add to the above. To my knowledge neither Ross or Gettleman have interviewed with anyone yet.

[Mr. Scot]

Chargers started interviews on Tuesday with Raye and have continued since then.

The Jaguars are pretty far along in the process with David Caldwell. He's had two interviews with the Jaguars so far.

The Cardinals are starting the process this weekend as well.

The Chiefs will either bring in Heckart as the GM or

Lets see the Jets are starting Interviews this weekend, Rex Ryan isn't involved at all in the process.

The Panther's I'd expect to start this weekend after JR get's back. There's three targets and one of them will get hired and It'll most likely be on Monday when that happens after they've all had their interviews.

Raye is an in-house candidate. Of the teams with openings, I think only the Chargers and Cards have those.

I'd only heard that the Jags asked to interview Caldwell (as well as Gamble and someone else).

[carpanfan96]

Raye is an in-house candidate. Of the teams with openings, I think only the Chargers and Cards have those.

I'd only heard that the Jags asked to interview Caldwell (as well as Gamble and someone else).

As to the Chargers part, Ron Wolf gave information out that interviews had started. Just wouldn't say who all they've interviewed already.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

Hear #Falcons VP of player personnel David Caldwell is meeting with #Jaguars today. He reportedly met with em earlier. Keim also candidate

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

Source confirms Falcons director of player personnel David Caldwell interviewed again today for the Jaguars GM job. 2nd time for him.

[Mr. Scot]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

Hear #Falcons VP of player personnel David Caldwell is meeting with #Jaguars today. He reportedly met with em earlier. Keim also candidate

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

Source confirms Falcons director of player personnel David Caldwell interviewed again today for the Jaguars GM job. 2nd time for him.

So getting an early start, but still a few other candidates to go.

Still looks like most of the action will be next week.

[UNCrules2187]

So basically the Jags are the only ones who've interviewed an outside candidate (Chargers interviewed in-house, Reid is bringing Heckert along for the ride - no doubt if Reid went elsewhere that Heckert WOULD NOT be in KC).

[carpanfan96]

So getting an early start, but still a few other candidates to go.

Still looks like most of the action will be next week.

This past Monday was black Monday, lets consider next Monday the Green one. lol

[Kurb]

All for the Falcons FO losing anyone of talent.