3 years later

[Ken]

Pep -> Big name, big market, historically good franchise, plays in an elite defense.

CJ -> Rarely known outside Carolina, small/medium market, young franchise that hasn't won the SB, plays in a good defense but not "elite"

So not fair but that's the reality.

[Chimera]

Pep -> Big name, big market, historically good franchise, plays in an elite defense.

CJ -> Rarely known outside Carolina, small/medium market, young franchise that hasn't won the SB, plays in a good defense but not "elite"

So not fair but that's the reality.

That would make sense if Pep wasn't a pro bowl staple as a Panther.

[Kevin Greene]

Great job CJ.

ps: After what happened to Cam at the Pro Bowl last year I could care less if Carolina ever has another Pro Bowler. Fug 'em, Cam and the Panthers will be too busy in the Post Season anyway.

[Wine&Cheese]

I'm gonna be pissed if Keuchly doesn't get DROY... I can tell you that right mothafuggin now!

Well might as well get your pistol loaded, cuz it aint happenin...

[TruCatzFan]

Well might as well get your pistol loaded, cuz it aint happenin...

It'd be a DAMNED shame... The kid lead the League in tackles (164) and wasnt even playing The Mike the whole year either. Patrick Willis' rookie record is 174... And he got DROY

He's a good kid and a hard worker... Not to mention the fact that he's going back to BC this Semester and into the Summer to get his degree! Great draft choice Hurney/Rivera!

[Wine&Cheese]

I'm gonna be pissed if people don't learn how to spell Kuechly.

What do you mean? The national media knows how to spell everyones name... Its spelled T-E-B-O-W.

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Good post

[hepcat]

It's a shame Peppers didn't stay...because the combo of CJ and Peppers would have been unbelievable.

[bLACKpANTHER]

bump cus i just saw this.. props to CJ

[rayzor]

since taking over full time for Julius peppers

Charles Johnson

33 sacks

143 tackles

9 passes defended

9 forced fumbles

241 sack yards

46 qb hits

40 tackles for loss - NO PRO BOWL APPEARANCES

Julius Peppers

30.5 sacks

130 tackles

15 passes defended

7 forced fumbles

208 sack yards

48 qb hits

40 tackles for loss - 3 PRO BOWL APPEARANCES

what a shame!!

i still can't believe that there are people left who think the pro-bowl is anything more than a popularity contest.

[Catalyst]

I'm so sick of the "pro bowl is a joke" comments. Yes, the game means nothing, but being selected does - or at least is supposed to. No doubt the voting system is awful, but I can't stand when people say "oh, it's a joke anyway so it doesn't matter" just because one of their players gets overlooked. I promise you if an undeserving Panther made it via name recognition over a clearly better player very few, if any, people here would complain.

[JawnyBlaze]

While I don't disagree with the essence of your post, when Tolbert was one of the leading candidates at FB there were probably more people here saying how it's just cuz of the stats he gets in our system and how as a FB he was probably undeserving.

[ThunderKatt]

All if that small market talk is crap. Peppers had all types of Pro Bowls while in Carolina as well as Smitty, we just haven't made a run since Johnson has been starting. Had we won the NFC championshil last year, Johnson would had been selected twice.

[Catalyst]

That's true. It has a lot more to do with what teams are winning now than anything. Most undeserving players get in via name recognition, but also based on their team, especially at positions like FB, K, P, and special teamer.