Luck, Griffin, Wilson, Kaepernick, Ponder, Dalton, Fox. All in playoffs.

[frash.exe]

Wash and Sea did some bold drafting as well.

Just following trends the Panthers should be better and learn how to close games. The tough part is next yrs schedule.

also once we get out of cap hell, finding good value free agent starters or through trades will help

[Jackofalltrades]

Trent Dilfer has a ring.

[Carl Spackler]

Trent Dilfer has a ring.

So does Brad Johnson.

Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly don't.

[rayzor]

If there's anyone to blame, it'd be Chud.

who does chud answer to?

who could have made chud alter what he did after three games of that poo not working? how long does it take to figure out that the change in what you're doing isn't working and is hurting the offense? who was the guy that didn't force that change to happen sooner?

it falls on rivera.

[CarolinaCoolin]

Our vets have playoff experience too home boy haha, Super Bowl experience in fact.

Marvin Lewis has been on the hot seat for years.

Leslie Frazier would've lost his job of they didn't make the playoffs.

Pete Caroll was being questioned until he gambled with Wilson and won.

Shannhan had a losing season last year and a lot of people thought he was crazy for giving up that much for rg3. He started 3-6 too.

None of those coaches were on the hot seat..... Every single coach on that list has playoff experience, and so does the vets on their team. Compare that to ours.....

To be fair only two starters remain from the Super Bowl game. But you are correct that we have that.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

So does Brad Johnson.

Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly don't.

dilfer and johnson are why i don't take people who are overly fixated on "winners" and "losers" seriously.

neither of them did a damn thing after they left those ravens and bucs teams but since they have rings somehow they're supposed to have something innate that makes them better than guys like marino and jim kelly.

kelly is a damn good quarterback who should have multiple rings. even though he's a hall of famer i still feel that he's overlooked by joe fan as one of the greatest to ever play. he's just that guy who lost four super bowls to your average idiot. and of course we're all familiar with dan marino.