An indicator that Rivera might be safe

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

C'mon man, that is a huge stretch. Many coaches have come straight out after losses and taken blame for their failings. We sat there and watched those ridiculous game plans for the first 6 to 8 weeks of the year, and all I heard was "we didn't make plays when we had opportunities" or "we didn't execute". Well guess what, you have to put players in positions to make plays and execute.

I don't care if you want Ron to stay or go, but don't act like he has manned up in public to any extent for the team's failings this year. He may have done it with the team behind closed doors, but in public, it's been all on the players.

He has always taken the blame. There are times when has even come out and said that it was his fault (i.e. the field goal timeout).

Ron is a class act, that's why the players love playing for him. If Ron kept blaming losses on the players then why do they love playing for him so much.

"We" implies me. By the way, Rivera has said before we have to put player in positions to execute better.

Go watch the press conference today, he gives all the credit to the players and doesn't once mention himself.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

"If you attack me personally I will make you look like a moron being that I have learned more about the game of football and the aspect of coaching than I ever imagined I would."

You make a statement like this and start name dropping... sorry, the BS meter is pegged and you have zero credibility in my world.

Cool... if I relied on others opinions of myself, I wouldn't be in the position that I am today.

[Jackofalltrades]

Top 10 O last season, Top 10 D this year.

I want to see him put it together in '13. If he can't do it, then you pull the plug.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Clearly you have no clue what a staff who uses their players talents to their greatest advantage to win means.

Clearly I do, that's why I want Rivera back. The Rivera of the past four weeks with Norv Turner as the OC and Scott Turner as the OQC.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Still not good in relation to this team....6th round rookie playing better than all of our billion dollar back field combined.

Shitty drafting by a shitty GM led by yes man lover JR...plus contracts that would make MLB go wuhhh?

Lol very true, Morris is a stud.

However, D-Will did show he still has something in the gas tank.

[Kramerica]

I'm glad the players think Ron Rivera is a good person and leader. Perhaps this means one of them will invite coach over for dinner and football next weekend. Schedule's pretty wide open, right?

[Anybodyhome]

"I'm guessing the company you work for didn't immediately experience success. People forget coaching is a job just like yours."

In case you hadn't noticed, I'm retired military. And yes, we did experience immediate success. Remember the American Revolution? That's where we got our start.

And no, coaching is not a job "just like mine."

Please stop using the "I'm guessing..." phrase. You're just not very good at guessing.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I'm glad the players think Ron Rivera is a good person and leader. Perhaps this means one of them will invite coach over for dinner and football next weekend. Schedule's pretty wide open, right?

Actually, I'm pretty sure Rivera does that for the players.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

"I'm guessing the company you work for didn't immediately experience success. People forget coaching is a job just like yours."

In case you hadn't noticed, I'm retired military. And yes, we did experience immediate success. Remember the American Revolution? That's where we got our start.

And no, coaching is not a job "just like mine."

If it was an immediate success then why did it take 8 years to win the war?

Things take time to develop. We aren't going to win the Super Bowl overnight, why it's so hard to understand; I don't know.

[frash.exe]

Recruiters are also coaches at the college level (each positional coach is responsible for coaching), Carl Torbush was Mack Brown's DC/LB at UNC. I learn things from superior coaches just like you learn things from your boss. It's a simple concept.

No poo

you've still got a poo ton to learn though. if you think getting informational treats from these guys automatically makes you think you know whether or not Ron is a good coach you're getting a little ahead of yourself, and by a little, i mean imagine someone leaping from greenland to south africa

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

No poo

you've still got a poo ton to learn though. if you think getting informational treats from these guys automatically makes you think you know whether or not Ron is a good coach you're getting a little ahead of yourself, and by a little, i mean imagine someone leaping from greenland to south africa

I understand what your point is, however like I said before I learn new things everyday. And I have repeatedly said why I think Rivera should return without and am still without a great rebuttal.

[Kevin Greene]

Clearly I do, that's why I want Rivera back. The Rivera of the past four weeks with Norv Turner as the OC and Scott Turner as the OQC.

No doubt the same tune you sang post season 2011.

[Marguide]

Okay, so because you're a QC assistant for a college program, that makes your judgement better than everyone else's on here?

Guess what, there are plenty of people who have worked and are still working at the NFL level (not college) that are bad at their jobs and have poor judgement. But because you work at a college program, that is supposed to mean your opinion has more validity?

Give me a fuggin break.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

No doubt the same tune you sang post season 2011.

Why would you fire a coach after one year?

That is one of the most illogical things I have ever heard...