Cam Newton: Best First Two Seasons Ever

[MadHatter]

I think being a clutch player also comes with the security in the receivers around you. If Cam's only solid go to guy is Steve, then it's hard for him to get out of trouble if there is no one he can easily turn to when Stevie is in trouble. There is a reason why they say, football is a team sport. Everyone has to be on the same page mentally.

I'm sure Jake had players around him that he could quickly turn to when he was in trouble or needed to make a quick score. The players around Cam isn't there yet.

I agree with you that Jake had a younger and more explosive Smitty to throw to. But, he still just had something about him late in games. He found ways to make plays.

So far, Cam has not been able to come close to that.

But, as I said.....He is still very young and is still a work in process. I fully expect him to improve in this area.

[pstall]

not surprised at all. so the next step is just closing out games. yes that's a team deal but it makes those stats even sweeter.

if anything im just insanely perplexed and frustrated with the team as a whole. so much potential and we could have easily been in the playoffs back to back seasons.

[X-Clown]

Most of Jake's "clutch" plays involved a prime Steve Smith.

Don't sleep on Ricky Proehl and Moose too. Of course, Jake always did have John Kasay to kick the big one in all of our nailbiter wins...Cam has had the likes of Mare/Medlock/Gano.

[L-TownCat]

Don't sleep on Ricky Proehl and Moose too. Of course, Jake always did have John Kasay to kick the big one in all of our nailbiter wins...Cam has had the likes of Mare/Medlock/Gano.

This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.

[Mr. Burgundy]

yeah, he has generated more offense than any player in NFL history of the course of his first two seasons....

if the media wasn't out to get him....they generally would be all over this type stuff. But Cam is unique, we don't want him to be loved...he plays better loved by those close to him and hated by the outside world.

If he won games the media would be all over him

[thefuzz]

This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.

Didn't have to be this way. Kasay still wanted to play, our GM was just in constant full retard.

[X-Clown]

This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.

Having a clutch kicker helps win those close games. Think of how many big kicks Matt Prater made for Denver last year in close games (of course, most simpletons give that credit to The Golden Calf of Bristol). Adam Vinatieri is a major reason that both Brady and Peyton Manning have Super Bowl rings.

[Verge]

70 total tds, 23 ints, over 7k yards. I would probably argue Dan Marino over Cam, though I can see where both sides of the argument come from.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Yardage and total touchdowns is an amazing stat.

In terms of clutch you could argue that Cam has been the team that's up in the 4th quarter so his opportunities have been limited. If Cam had won those games he still would have the "clutch" questions.

Now the fumble against the Falcon and the awful pass in the Seahawks game are two instances where he was not clutch.

Fox ball always had the team barley down but so there was opportunity to close out the stinkers for the earlier three quarters.

Now in situations where he needed to make a drive he has yet to close on that signature drive...thanks Mare.

Like Dan Reeves in Denver, he spends three quarter trying to run the ball ineffectively and then when they are down two tds they give it to elway and go no huddle for the bail out win.

Cam needs a coach that will allow us to be down in the 4th plain and simple and

Rivera is always having the lead...get rid of him.

[Ivan The Awesome]

you may consider this a preemptive PFFL strike.

I actually thought this was your shot at TRD. lol

[Future of the Funchise]

Nice read

[BigSyke]

nice but need to get playoffs. now is that a coaching and gm problem.,,,,,we will find. other than that nice. even with all the others i still think cam has the most potential to not only become elite but truly a one of a kind player of his generation. :cool:

[mav1234]

honestly I have to give those first two seasons to Dan Marino... I don't think wins are solely on a QB but I don't think you can just ignore them completely, either. What Dan did in those first two seasons - given the nature of the league - wow.

I love Cam and I think what he has done is simply amazing, and I don't think it detracts from his accomplishments to say maybe he's second best.

[Awesomeness!!]

I would take 2003-07 Jake over rookie and soph Cam in the 4th Q. Call him lucky, but he got in done. So will Cam with time, but we are in the playoffs thia year with Jake.