Why was the Palmer Hit a Penalty?

[Black]

I agree except to say pooling money may not be the thing to do after the Saints .

It's a pretty common practice if memory serves me correctly.

[Panther53521]

The league must of had a talk with all the refs, they were calling every big hit in every game yesterday

[frash.exe]

either way it's pretty inconsequential in this particular case for us

[longhorncat]

Seems like as good a place as any to post this:

"ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) -- Oakland Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer suffered cracked ribs and a bruised lung after a hard hit by Carolina linebacker Greg Hardy and will not play in the team's final game."

[thunderraiden]

I'ma let ya'll decide.

[tiger7_88]

I'ma let ya'll decide.

Facemask up and the eyes can see the numbers? That's textbook tackling technique taught at every level from junior to high school to college.

[iamhubby1]

You cannot hit anyone with your helmet. Hardy's helmet is in Palmer's back. That is a penalty.

Keep your helmet out of the tackle and you are good. Or, tackle with the shoulder pads. That is what you are taught. See what you hit, and hit it with your shoulder pads.

[Kuech the Sneak]

You cannot hit anyone with your helmet. Hardy's helmet is in Palmer's back. That is a penalty.

Keep your helmet out of the tackle and you are good. Or, tackle with the shoulder pads. That is what you are taught. See what you hit, and hit it with your shoulder pads.

See what you hit? His eyes are up, he can clearly see what he's hitting. And try keeping your helmet out of a tackle, you supposed to be leaning your head back while tackling

[Marguide]

See what you hit? His eyes are up, he can clearly see what he's hitting. And try keeping your helmet out of a tackle, you supposed to be leaning your head back while tackling

Exactly. I am having a hard time figuring out how you lead with your pads without your helmet touching their body.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Exactly. I am having a hard time figuring out how you lead with your pads without your helmet touching their body.

My solution is that QBs have side-ribcage airbags .. We all win.

[aussiePanther]

Perhaps this thread should be merged with the fines thread where the actual rule is quoted and the discussion's pretty much the same.

Answer is:

- hit opponent with his helmet (doesn't matter which part) first

- was judged to be unnecessarily violent (as opposed to wrapping up with shoulders and arms)

- had to be more than just a flag after it removed their QB from the game (and ended his season)

[Happy Panther]

What you said above is key: HE PUT HIS *FACEMASK* INTO PALMERS RIBS.

NOT the crown of his helmet.

Leading with the crown of your helmet (i.e. spearing) is and should be a penalty.

Read the rule:

(f) If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask...

[CatMan72]

It was not a penalty... it was the kind of tackle the NFL was using as an example of a textbook tackle. It was violent, when a 290 man hits someone from the blindside it's never gonna be pretty.

[JawnyBlaze]

Read the rule:

You forgot to finish that rule:

(f) If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily.

Doesn't apply.