Maaaaaaan if Cam did this!

[tiger7_88]

I think racism gets underscored quite a bit because a lot of people want to think that it doesn't exist anymore, but when an ESPN analyst comes out and makes a racist remark, you definitely know it's still alive and unfortunately still thriving. And that goes for everyone whether your white, black, brown, yellow, red, green, pink, or orange; racism is definitely alive and sadly it's made its way into something we all love and that thing being athletics.

It really is a shame.

Racism exists.

Racism has always existed.

Racism always will exist.

Anyone who denies that racism exists by ALL races in every human institution (including the NFL and the media) is in utter denial of the nature of human civilization, human behavior, and human relationships.. It's just that some humans and human institutions hide it better than others. Some even like to pretend it DOESN'T exist.

[rodeo]

Bail on his teammates? You think they care about the one or two wildcat plays he's in? When it comes to his faith, that is who he is. I haven't seen him using Jesus' name to get money. Plain and simple, the Jets have damaged The Golden Calf of Bristol's career by not letting him play. Yesterday, I thought Pryor for the Raiders should have stepped in when Palmer went down. Yet because he was the third string QB, they let Leinhart play instead. They didn't pass over Leinhart, when they probably should have. So why did the Jets pass over The Golden Calf of Bristol when he was the back up? That is not right.

I accidentally gave you rep but I clicked it on the wrong post. I actually quite dislike your post and the line "I haven't seen him using Jesus' name to get money" is the stupidest, funniest thing ever. And I'm not surprised someone who thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old would defend The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[SuperMan]

Like there is anything else to talk about, our season is pretty much over. There is no postseason, you can ignore my thread and continue with your shitty posting.

So you are admitting to a stretch posting something non panther related in the panther forum and yet it's my posting that is shitty? Lmao

Quit getting pissed by every "perceived" slight by the media, there all

Biased in some way they make a living being controversial get over it, it is well beyond your control.

[Matthias]

The Jets haven't damaged his career. Everyone knows what Tim can do.

If a team is looking for a big, bruising fullback that can also occasionally complete a pass, they know exactly where to find him.

This team actually needs a bruising fullback. :P

Yet The Golden Calf of Bristol can do more than that. I would personally like to see if he can specialize his own way of throwing, because he is not the traditional NFL QB type. I kind of look at it as creating a new martial art style.

I don't give a crap, you're a "team player" then you do what the coaches ask you.

If his coaches asked him to eat dirt, should he have done that to? If Marcus Allen did everything his coaches told him, he wouldn't be a HOF right now, not that I'm saying The Golden Calf of Bristol will be a HOF. What I'm saying is this coaching staff clearly could care less about The Golden Calf of Bristol and his career. They pretty much already said they are going to release him as soon as the season's over. So they passed him over, they lied to him, they can't wait to get rid of him because of the publicity, and yet they still want to parade him out there for two plays just for the fun of it?

To keep this Panther related, I said before that Cam should have rebelled against this staff for running so many read option plays for most of the season. It's only now the coaching staff have dialed back off the read option, and look what is happening. I strongly believe Cam should have stood up mid season, and tell the coaching staff these read options aren't working. Who knows what this team could have done if there was someone with guts in that locker room, to get in the coaches faces about the read option. I'm not saying he should have disrespected the coaches, but he should have told them this offense was killing us. Ultimately, I don't know if he did that or not, but it took way too long for the coaches to change the gameplan. So I applaud The Golden Calf of Bristol for standing up for himself, and he didn't do it in a disrespectful manner.

[Matthias]

I accidentally gave you rep but I clicked it on the wrong post. I actually quite dislike your post and the line "I haven't seen him using Jesus' name to get money" is the stupidest, funniest thing ever. And I'm not surprised someone who thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old would defend The Golden Calf of Bristol.

I defend players who are wrongly treated and lied to. Why do you think me and others defended Cam against this coaching staff? For letting Cam incriminate himself at the podium? The Golden Calf of Bristol has skills that go against the grain, and I like his potential.

[jtnc]

I defend players who are wrongly treated and lied to. Why do you think me and others defended Cam against this coaching staff? For letting Cam incriminate himself at the podium? The Golden Calf of Bristol has skills that go against the grain, and I like his potential.

Guess what? Vick was a team player about being asked not to start for rest of the year, how about Flynn? It is not professional nor is it being a TEAM player.

[Raskle]

To keep this Panther related' date=' I said before that Cam should have rebelled against this staff for running so many read option plays for most of the season. It's only now the coaching staff have dialed back off the read option, and look what is happening. I strongly believe Cam should have stood up mid season, and tell the coaching staff these read options aren't working.[/quote']

You honestly believe Cam didn't say anything?? Wtf do you think that whole "suggestion box" and "same song, different act" (paraphrased) thing was? He made it quite clear to those who can read betwen the lines that he was not happy with the playcalling, or the coaching staff at all midyear. He even went so far as to imply that the calls were what was killing us (rightfully so) in pess conferences. If he had come right out and said it, plain as day, people would have completely trashed him for throwing his coaches under the bus, not being a team player, and being selfish and immature yet again. He did what you asked for, only he did it the smart way.

As for the OP and all other comments, it's quite simple. We have Cam on one end, The Golden Calf of Bristol on the other, as far as personalities are concerned, total polar opposites. We have flamboyant and reserved. We have Christian Goldenboy and Street Thug Icon. We have.. what the media has created for both of them. Of course they are going to run with whatever, and give voice supporting what they built... it generates talk, reviews, website traffic, and sales of newspapers and magazines. It's exactly what they want... so why stop doing it?

You notice that no one is talking about Gabbart here. I wonder why? Hmm.. maybe because he's not a controversial figure that's been set up in the media to ascend or falter like the other two have been? Nah.. couldn't be that simple, right?

[Matthias]

Guess what? Vick was a team player about being asked not to start for rest of the year, how about Flynn? It is not professional nor is it being a TEAM player.

Those are completely different situations. Vick started and he lost. Flynn lost out to a rookie in preseason, and the Seahawks always said the QB position was up for grabs between Flynn and Wilson. Wilson won. The situation with The Golden Calf of Bristol is he was the back up, he understood that. Yet the Jets passed him over for the third string. That's jacked up. Especially for a guy who lead his previous team to the playoffs. (Say what you will, but the Broncos aren't in the playoffs last year if The Golden Calf of Bristol didn't become the starter)

You honestly believe Cam didn't say anything?? Wtf do you think that whole "suggestion box" and "same song, different act" (paraphrased) thing was? He made it quite clear to those who can read betwen the lines that he was not happy with the playcalling, or the coaching staff at all midyear. He even went so far as to imply that the calls were what was killing us (rightfully so) in pess conferences. If he had come right out and said it, plain as day, people would have completely trashed him for throwing his coaches under the bus, not being a team player, and being selfish and immature yet again. He did what you asked for, only he did it the smart way.

He definitely showed frustrations in the media, but I don't see that as showing strong abhorence to the offense and the way it was being run. I didn't want him to say anything in public, but I wonder if he went into the coaches office and had a meeting with them about the offense? If all the guys on offense had a problem with the way things were going, why did it take the coaches so long to change it?

I wouldn't have mind if Cam and the guys called a couple of their own plays in the huddle, just to show how bad a job the coaching have been. That is how bad I felt the coaching was this year, and if I were a player, I definitely would have considered calling a couple of my own plays, if the coaches ignored my pleas to change things up.

[jtnc]

Those are completely different situations. Vick started and he lost. Flynn lost out to a rookie in preseason, and the Seahawks always said the QB position was up for grabs between Flynn and Wilson. Wilson won. The situation with The Golden Calf of Bristol is he was the back up, he understood that. Yet the Jets passed him over for the third string. That's jacked up. Especially for a guy who lead his previous team to the playoffs. (Say what you will, but the Broncos aren't in the playoffs last year if The Golden Calf of Bristol didn't become the starter)

Those aren't completely different situations, Flynn was actually TOLD he would be the starter, and he wasn't. But he kept mum on the situation and did what a good teammate does. Has it ever fuging occurred to you and the other The Golden Calf of Bristol supporters Mcelroy has looked better than The Golden Calf of Bristol in practice? Or that Rex actually prefers a guy that can ACTUALLY throw the ball? The Golden Calf of Bristol looked terrible in the preseason(that int he threw with three Panthers in the area was laughable) The Golden Calf of Bristol has not proved to Rex or their coaching staff he deserved to start.

[jtnc]

Who knew so many well worn sports-media tropes could collide in one player? The Golden Calf of Bristol is the plucky winner who rides his leadership and intangibles to greatness. The Golden Calf of Bristol is also the overrated prima donna, the one who grumps over limited playing time and sulks and eventually quits on his team before demanding a trade. All things to all men, this guy. Which one is the real The Golden Calf of Bristol?

http://deadspin.com/5971014/tim-The Golden Calf of Bristol-is-a-coddled-malcontent?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Great article.

[Matthias]

Those aren't completely different situations, Flynn was actually TOLD he would be the starter, and he wasn't. But he kept mum on the situation and did what a good teammate does. Has it ever fuging occurred to you and the other The Golden Calf of Bristol supporters Mcelroy has looked better than The Golden Calf of Bristol in practice? Or that Rex actually prefers a guy that can ACTUALLY throw the ball? The Golden Calf of Bristol looked terrible in the preseason(that int he threw with three Panthers in the area was laughable) The Golden Calf of Bristol has not proved to Rex or their coaching staff he deserved to start.

You're going to have to give me an earlier report stating Flynn had the starting job from the moment he came in because don't forget, Tavaris Jackson was fighting for the starting position as well. I actually think if anyone was pegged the starter before training camp, it was Tavaris.

With all that said, The Golden Calf of Bristol was named the back up. As much as Sanchez sucked in the preseason, he still got a fair shot at playing. McElroy actually looked better than both in the preseason, scored the only touchdown in the preseason, yet Sanchez wasn't benched. The Golden Calf of Bristol wasn't given a chance to play, and we know he's the kind of player that gets better with more snaps.

McElroy wasn't head and shoulders above The Golden Calf of Bristol, so it didn't warrant the leap frog on the depth chart.

[jtnc]

While Cam Newton was at Florida, The Golden Calf of Bristol wasn't the most talented quarterback on campus. After winning the Heisman Trophy, according to sources, he was outperformed by Newton in both practice and the ‘08 Spring game, yet The Golden Calf of Bristol (understandably) remained the starter. Newton was promised an opportunity to start in ‘08, but he never had a real chance given Urban Meyer's affection and preference for The Golden Calf of Bristol. At Senior Bowl practices in 2010, The Golden Calf of Bristol was so bad at taking snaps that shotgun elements from the Florida offense were added for him. That's right — his college offense was incorporated at the NFL's biggest job fair, one at which The Golden Calf of Bristol needed to show he could play a more conventional style of football.

[Matthias]

Not to sound like a Skip Bayless, but The Golden Calf of Bristol has won in the NFL. He was merited a chance to play in the game as the starting QB once Sachez was benched. He's not traditional by any means, I believe that is one of the reasons why people love him, and the reason why I want to see him succeed. I want to see him develop a completely new style of offense.

Yet besides what I want to see and everything else, the main thing is the Jets were damaging The Golden Calf of Bristol's career. They didn't even use him like they said they would. I'm surprised so many people are calling The Golden Calf of Bristol a hypocrite, when we should all by applauding his stance. People have been complaining about his good boy outlook, and now when The Golden Calf of Bristol takes a respectful stand against the Jets coaching, people cry he's a phony in his beliefs and as a person. I think The Golden Calf of Bristol critics reached on this one.

[MadHatter]

How did I turn it into a slight or insult to Cam? I said there is a double standard when it comes to reporting things The Golden Calf of Bristol does than it is to Cam. You can ignore the facts all you want, but Cam has been drugged through the mud by the media, they're quick to pounce on him. And it's not just the huddle that believes that, current and former players too.

Go read the thread. It turned into a whole thread about Cam but getting the same respect.

Why any of you care what the media thinks about Cam is beyond me. You are acting like someone is picking on your 8 yo son or daughter.