One thing I fear. We beat the Raiders but lose to the Saints..

[PantherTrain84]

We destroy the Raiders, JR at that point thinks winning 3 in a row is "trending up" but we lose to the Saints and get a pass because "its ok, the Saints are tough in the dome anyway" so we get a free pass and finish 6-10 yet again and Rivera stays.

I cannot stress how important it is we ONLY keep Rivera if we go 7-9. Last year on Christmas eve we destroyed a 4 win Bucs team then got destroyed in New Orleans and ended up 6-10. If we lose to the Saints, all that will say is we havent improved whatsoever, it will just mean we are a middle of the pack, below average 6-10 team that can pull off an upset on occasion and destroy terrible teams but stuck in stand still and wont be elite.

I dont care how tough the Saints are in the dome, you think its unfair to have a HC's fate hinge on one single game? Tough luck! Ron should have thought of that before we lost 9 games. If we lose to the Saints, Ron needs to go no question.

The Saints game will be Ron's final exam. His final test, just like in High School, you fail the test you fail the year. If we beat the Saints that will show a true sign we have taken the next step, if we lose. That means 0 progress has been made and Ron fails.

[Kettle]

What if we lose to the raiders and beat the saints?

[RelaxImaPro]

Interesting thread OP, not sure I've seen some one bring this up before.

[PantherTrain84]

What if we lose to the raiders and beat the saints?

Fired on the spot. My line in the sand is 7-9. Anything less fired immedately

[Kakarot]

I'm in the "he only stays if he goes 7-9" camp. He loses to any of the 2 remaining team, he gots to go!

[PantherTrain84]

I'm in the "he only stays if he goes 7-9" camp. He loses to any of the 2 remaining team, he gots to go!

Abslouely. Not improving to make the playoffs is bad enough, but atleast not improving your win margin by a measley game when a lot of experts predicted playoffs is unacceptable

[Ken]

Why is the amount of wins so important? I've harped on this but we should evaluate the coaching staff on decisions made on the field, how players have improved etc...

Just saying, oh he's 6-10, he should stay/go is very short sighted and leads to rash decisions.

[Kevin Greene]

Dont care how we finish.

Point is there are upgrades out there over Ron Rivera.

[LinvilleGorge]

Sorry, I've seen enough of Rivera's late game abysmal failures to feel comfortable saying that he ain't the right guy.

I like him and it speaks well to him that the team hasn't quit on him, but he just didn't get the job done. I wish him the best of luck in the future.

[jtnc]

If we go 7-9 he's actually doing us a disservice, because we'd be drafting out of the top 11.

[Lumps]

Losing to the Saints is unacceptable, even beating them Rivera should not be safe. Records do matter when your core and QB are there in place and you've used all your cap. Nothing left but to win.

[broseidon]

We destroy the Raiders, JR at that point thinks winning 3 in a row is "trending up" but we lose to the Saints and get a pass because "its ok, the Saints are tough in the dome anyway" so we get a free pass and finish 6-10 yet again and Rivera stays.

I cannot stress how important it is we ONLY keep Rivera if we go 7-9. Last year on Christmas eve we destroyed a 4 win Bucs team then got destroyed in New Orleans and ended up 6-10. If we lose to the Saints, all that will say is we havent improved whatsoever, it will just mean we are a middle of the pack, below average 6-10 team that can pull off an upset on occasion and destroy terrible teams but stuck in stand still and wont be elite.

I dont care how tough the Saints are in the dome, you think its unfair to have a HC's fate hinge on one single game? Tough luck! Ron should have thought of that before we lost 9 games. If we lose to the Saints, Ron needs to go no question.

The Saints game will be Ron's final exam. His final test, just like in High School, you fail the test you fail the year. If we beat the Saints that will show a true sign we have taken the next step, if we lose. That means 0 progress has been made and Ron fails.

This whole season was a giant step in the wrong direction. I look back and see a more competitive team last year then I do this year. The Offense has been a shadow of itself, and the defense has been bad bad bad. Letting Brady Quinn have a +100 QB rating is a testament of how bad they are.

Stop spending money on players.... And buy some coaches!! I want the CHIN.. I wanna WIN

[Rubi]

This whole season was a giant step in the wrong direction. I look back and see a more competitive team last year then I do this year. The Offense has been a shadow of itself, and the defense has been bad bad bad. Letting Brady Quinn have a +100 QB rating is a testament of how bad they are.

Stop spending money on players.... And buy some coaches!! I want the CHIN.. I wanna WIN

Well the defense is ranked in the top half the league this year...

But the CHIN is IN !!

[Chaos]

Losing to the Saints is unacceptable, even beating them Rivera should not be safe. Records do matter when your core and QB are there in place and you've used all your cap. Nothing left but to win.

Losing to the Chiefs should have been unacceptable too, as well as the Tampa Bay choke job. I'm not happy with the body of work, and getting amped up to beat an Atlanta team or finishing out a meaningless string of late-season games with nothing on the line but pride and some players job security doesn't do it for me.

We need to make a change. Someone who knows how to be an NFL head coach, not someone on another learning curve.