Rivera will be back

[tight lines]

if by rivera will be back next year, you mean back in san diego then I hope you are right.

[heelsrule1988]

I can't believe some of the people defending Rivera. This is one reason why I hate these trademark late-season runs we go on... it gives people a false image of things. The fact that we've won three of the last four does not change all of our close losses. Ron Rivera is a good guy, but he cannot coach in close games. And that's why we're once again not playing at all in January rather than making the playoffs for the second straight year for the first time ever. The close losses are literally the only thing keeping us from the playoffs.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Not sure about the rest of you ,but I'm tired of seeing the Panthers padding their record with meaningless wins once they are out of contention for the playoffs year after year. We should have just kept Coach Fox if that is all it takes to satisfy us as fans.

It would be a mistake for this organization to decide Ron's fate purely on the outcome of the last half of this season. He is on the hot seat because of two losing seasons and a lot of questionable decisions. That reality should be taken into account by the new GM when searching for a possible Head Coach replacement.

Ron should only retain his position if there are no clearly superior coaching alternatives available.

[Sloth]

I for one am eagerly anticipating next season when Rivera randomly switches to the Wildcat as our base offensive set until week 8.

[Doc Holiday]

You seem to be the only one thinking that.

I didn't realize that it was by popular opinion and not facts?

A lot of people don't want to give Rivera any credit because they are butt hurt over how the season has gone on, yourself included.

and I understand I've been there too.

I've just seen enough bad seasons that it doesn't bother me anymore, and you can say what you will about that but I don't get caught in the emotion of it anymore and I just take things for what they are, no more or less.

it's like the 1-12 argument.

reality is the argument is it's crap, but the wins and losses are fact. the biggest issues with this team has been know since week 1, O-line and DB's (mostly the DB's)and they are still the issue, when you go by the book situational play calling for both teams at the end of the game there is your answer.

now has Coaching been perfect? nope, but they haven't been horrible either.

I think overall the Coaches have done a Decent Job.

With all this said I'd be in Favor of replacing Rivera if a clear cut better option like Andy Reid is available and willing to come to Charlotte. but honesty if we are going to just get someone new and Unproven as a head coach in the NFL again I'd just rather give Rivera another year to work things out, because honestly outside of Reid there really isn't anyone that I find even remotely exciting.

[Doc Holiday]

LOL!

Yep, the person who starts slinging personal attacks is usually "winning" the argument.

I love the internet.

Go back and read my first post, I never started to argue with him, he did that.

I just said it was funny, and it still is.

[ForMac]

Ever hear of a 3 year plan, and if there is progress from each season you retain the staff with a few tinkers.

[tight lines]

A lot of people don't want to give Rivera any credit because they are butt hurt over how the season has gone on

Some of us want to give him credit for his entire body of work, not just the last 4 games.

[Sword]

I wont' freak if he's let go, but it will be awesome to see the many rage posts if/when he is retained.

[Doc Holiday]

Some of us want to give him credit for his entire body of work, not just the last 4 games.

are you for real? did you just quote that single part of my post because the rest of it hurts your biased opinion too much?

In case you forgot I already addressed that in my last post in fact it was THE REST OF THE POST.

but who cares when facts get in the way of a good argument again.

-_-

[Marguide]

I for one am eagerly anticipating next season when Rivera randomly switches to the Wildcat as our base offensive set until week 8.

I almost lost it when Chud opted to start the game today with the wildcat.

Here's Chud: "Let's see...we've got the hottest QB in the game right now...I know, let's run the wildcat. They'll never expect that."

That is the problem with Chud in a nutshell and I have no faith he'll ever be any different.

[tight lines]

are you for real? did you just quote that single part of my post because the rest of it hurts your biased opinion too much?

In case you forgot I already addressed that in my last post in fact it was THE REST OF THE POST.

but who cares when facts get in the way of a good argument again.

-_-

I quoted that part because that's the part I was addressing. I can only speak for myself, but the reasons I don't want to see rivera back in Carolina next year are big picture. He has shown he doesn't have what it takes to be a hc in the NFL in my opinion. This team has obviously got the talent, but they don't have the leadership to put them over the top. Leadership starts with the hc, he has to own everything. Rivera has not shown that ability, he always has someone else to blame. His game management has been beyond horrible in a number of games. He only seems to make adjustments when its too late. Boy can he coach when the season is already lost and the opponents are weak though.

[Keith Moons Liver]

If we keep him, we deserve everything bad that happens to us.

[Anybodyhome]

I almost lost it when Chud opted to start the game today with the wildcat.

Here's Chud: "Let's see...we've got the hottest QB in the game right now...I know, let's run the wildcat. They'll never expect that."

That is the problem with Chud in a nutshell and I have no faith he'll ever be any different.

Actually, in keeping with the theme of the thread, this is the problem with Rivera. The notion that Chud is running elementary college offenses and pulling this offensive scheme out of his a$$ every week, while Rivera stands idly by and does nothing.

Losing games is one thing, winning meaningless games is another and allowing the Offensive Coordinator to design a game plan based on Madden or whatever he's using and not dictate the offensive personality of this team is by far the most egregious lack of leadership and not acting as the head coach of the team.