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Goodell considers changes to kickoff

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grateflday Collaborator

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....... Right now if a player on the defending team deliberately draws and unsportsman like during the point after or on the dead ball it has no meaningful impact on the game.

For example: Defending team knows that the kicker will boom a touch back anyway so after the PAT they take out a lineman's knee. 15 yards assessed on the kickoff. Now the kicking team puts it in the stands as opposed to just through the end zone. Net result is the same for the receiving team and now a starting tackle is out for the game.....

This is something I definately have said to myself and others when it occurs. There is really no consequence of unsportsmanlike conduct after a TD and I am surprise more guys arent taking cheap shots. If anything the only thing it does it take the risk of a short field away then should the kicking team decide to do an oneside kick. Otherwise its gonna be a touch back anyway so now big deal to get a 15yard penalty. THEY SHOULD add it to the end of the return. If the returner scores a TD so be it, otherwise tag 15 yards to the end. If touchback you get it on the 35 and so forth.

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rayzor Grand Master

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Different context.

Do you think there would be an increase in onside kick attempts if they were suddenly somehow at a 50/50 chance instead of 1 in 50?

i think teams would opt to punt in those situations as often as they do now. 4th and 15 is not something that people tend to try and pass their way out of.

i'm sure chip kelly or someone of his ilk that prefers to take chances in those situations might try more punt fakes or passing for it, but for the most part it would be avoided much like it is today.

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You sound like someone who has Armanti Edwards returning for them. Would probably get different answers from fans watching Sproles or Leon Washington.

maybe, but they'd still have their chances to shine as a punt returner. kick return specialist has been less needed in recent years anyway, esp. with teams kicking off from the 35.
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i think teams would opt to punt in those situations as often as they do now. 4th and 15 is not something that people tend to try and pass their way out of.

i'm sure chip kelly or someone of his ilk that prefers to take chances in those situations might try more punt fakes or passing for it, but for the most part it would be avoided much like it is today.

Again, it's a different context. If you're in a 4th and 15 hole on a drive, then it's because your offense put you in a hole so obviously you're not going to be confident about going for it.

This would be after a score. It's not a 4th down earned via the defense stopping you. It's not the same type of gamble.

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Again, it's a different context. If you're in a 4th and 15 hole on a drive, then it's because your offense put you in a hole so obviously you're not going to be confident about going for it.

This would be after a score. It's not a 4th down earned via the defense stopping you. It's not the same type of gamble.

yeah, i guess confidence would be a deciding factor but i still think that more timid coaches (which is the bulk of them in the NFL) would still regularly punt it.

you look at the teams who go for it on 4th and 1 vs. the teams who opt to punt and you will probably have a better idea of who would be punting it away after a TD.

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rayzor Grand Master

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LOL at the folks acting like Goodell rules the league with an iron fist.

You do realize that he cant do ANYTHING to the game without the consent of the team owners don't you?

But never mind that, carry on with your lynch mob...

it's the owners concerned about injuries to their players and/or lawsuits. the owners are goodell's boss. this was an idea thrown in there by one of the coaches and it's been talked about by the owners as being something that needed to be changed. the kickoff rules were the owners and coaches idea.

goodell hasn't done anything that tagliubue wouldn't have done except for getting better marketing and increasing viewership and the league's profitability.

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it's the owners concerned about injuries to their players and/or lawsuits. the owners are goodell's boss. this was an idea thrown in there by one of the coaches and it's been talked about by the owners as being something that needed to be changed. the kickoff rules were the owners and coaches idea.

goodell hasn't done anything that tagliubue wouldn't have done except for getting better marketing and increasing viewership and the league's profitability.

It wont last. Its a bubble waiting to burst.

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Inimicus Mentor

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With fewer games on Sunday due to byes and the 3 primetime games, people will lose interest. Its a snowball effect. How many of you have missed a Panther game this year, and didnt care?

Did you really just try to tie attendance at historically bad Panthers games to Goodells rule changes?

My God son...

You really need to get help.

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