colin cowherd trashing cam on twitter

[MadHatter]

This is Chud we are talking about. His version of a check down is usually a 20 yard out on the far side of the field.

Like I said, most of it is on Chud. But, on that last attempted drive, Cam had DWill wide open on the checkdown....but instead tried to force it down the field into double coverage.

There is a fine line with too many check downs and not enough check downs.

Clausen was check down king.....Cam never likes to check down.

He will continue to get better and will learn that taking the 3-4 yards they give you keeps the chains moving. It is just part of the maturation process that every QB has to go through....including Cam.

[CPF4LIFE]

That's not possible. Every team plays 6 divisional games, so there is no way the first one could come in week 13.

Im sorry, i meant that they arent scheduled to play Houston for the first time till week 15

[BigSyke]

luck is going to throw for more yards than cam but cam almost rushed for 1000 yards.

he is going to have more ints and fumbles too.

i like how he comes back in the 4th but he his competition is sorry.

luck;s playing decent but they have better coaching staff

[Makish]

Not to pile on ,but can someone tell why Cam overthrows 5-6 times a game , 4 with little pressure

[DaCityKats]

Not to pile on ,but can someone tell why Cam overthrows 5-6 times a game , 4 with little pressure

footwork. the same reason every QB misses a pass every sunday.

[teeray]

Not to pile on ,but can someone tell why Cam overthrows 5-6 times a game , 4 with little pressure

These little criticisms bother me a little bit. I mean, yes it is true that if every pass that Cam ever threw was perfect he would be a lot better. He would also have a completion percentage of 90% and have 50 TDs.

5-6 missed throws in a game are not unique to Cam Newton. Unless your team has Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees you are likely to see 5-6 missed throws every single Sunday.

But yes it is true that if every pass Cam Newton threw was perfect he would be the greatest QB ever.

[IGSaint]

Not to pile on ,but can someone tell why Cam overthrows 5-6 times a game , 4 with little pressure

Find me a qb in this league who is perfect and never overthrows or underthrows their receiver.

[IGSaint]

These little criticisms bother me a little bit. I mean, yes it is true that if every pass that Cam ever threw was perfect he would be a lot better. He would also have a completion percentage of 90% and have 50 TDs.

5-6 missed throws in a game are not unique to Cam Newton. Unless your team has Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees you are likely to see 5-6 missed throws every single Sunday.

But yes it is true that if every pass Cam Newton threw was perfect he would be the greatest QB ever.

Ironically all those elite qbs you listed also over and underthrow their receivers at times. Brees himself threw 5 interceptions the previous game and brady threw an int in his game.

[Marguide]

Im sorry, i meant that they arent scheduled to play Houston for the first time till week 15

My bad. I get it now.

Not to pile on ,but can someone tell why Cam overthrows 5-6 times a game , 4 with little pressure

QB's typically complete about 60% of their passes. Same could be asked of 31 other QB's.

[teeray]

Not to pile on ,but can someone tell why Cam overthrows 5-6 times a game , 4 with little pressure

Now that I snapped your head off, part of the problem is when he has pressure and throws off balance. That will happen to everyone.

But one other thing I think that happens when he doesn't have pressure, is he might see the receiver coming open a little late. Or sometimes he is trying to throw into a really tight window.

When these type things happen, he has a tendency to try and put too much heat on the ball. Sometimes it works out, but when he tries to generate too much speed he has a tendency to release the ball early because his arm is coming through faster than normal. It is like pitching or golf, in order to be consistent your body has to work as one.

When he throws in rhythm he is usually very accurate. It is when he reaches for a little bit extra that he gets a little wild.

[fieryprophet]

Now that I snapped your head off, part of the problem is when he has pressure and throws off balance. That will happen to everyone.

But one other thing I think that happens when he doesn't have pressure, is he might see the receiver coming open a little late. Or sometimes he is trying to throw into a really tight window.

When these type things happen, he has a tendency to try and put too much heat on the ball. Sometimes it works out, but when he tries to generate too much speed he has a tendency to release the ball early because his arm is coming through faster than normal. It is like pitching or golf, in order to be consistent your body has to work as one.

When he throws in rhythm he is usually very accurate. It is when he reaches for a little bit extra that he gets a little wild.

Yeah, when Cam loads up that howitzer things can get a little crazy. I swear some of those passes have to be breaking the sound barrier.

[firstdayfan]

But it's not just Cam failing or Luck succeeding. For example, in our last real chance yesterday, one of our plays was a screen. It was executed perfectly by the QB and the back, but the defense anticipated the play and blew it up. That is not a failure by Cam. So how do you extrapolate from that and say that Cam hasn't gotten it done? It's a team thing, not an individual thing.

I can't...and I don't think anyone can. But the play that luck won the game on yesterday was a play that wasn't executed perfectly but he got it in the end zone. I'm not saying Luck had anything to do with it but what I'm saying is there is an obvious difference in some QB's ability to move the team in those situations and Cam's right now. Your guess is as good as mine but I think its just something he is learning how to do and we have to be patient.

Take Jake for instance, he was great at willing his team to victory at times...moving the ball down field and winning games. He wasn't the best QB in the league, far from it but he won games. Cam needs to do more of that to silence the critics.

[fieryprophet]

I can't...and I don't think anyone can. But the play that luck won the game on yesterday was a play that wasn't executed perfectly but he got it in the end zone. I'm not saying Luck had anything to do with it but what I'm saying is there is an obvious difference in some QB's ability to move the team in those situations and Cam's right now. Your guess is as good as mine but I think its just something he is learning how to do and we have to be patient.

Take Jake for instance, he was great at willing his team to victory at times...moving the ball down field and winning games. He wasn't the best QB in the league, far from it but he won games. Cam needs to do more of that to silence the critics.

. . .If I facepalmed any harder right now I wouldn't have a head left.

I utterly despise the stupid, ignorant, completely unfounded and irrational belief that anyone can "will" anything to happen in football. You know why it's such a popular sentiment amongst fans and stupid sportswriters? BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE GAME OF FOOTBALL.

You know why Luck got that TD at the end? Because the offensive coordinator called for four routes in the endzone and for Avery to leak underneath. All the people in the endzone drew all the defenders, Avery was left uncovered, Luck almost ran over the line of scrimmage before dumping it off to him, and he ran untouched into the end zone. That game was won by terrible defensive playcalling and a great offensive play call. Period. End of story.

On the flip side, we are the retarded defense that other QBs earn their comeback win credits on.

Cam's worst game as a pro was the Seattle nightmare, and that was one game he legitimately failed on a comeback drive by one-hopping the game-winning TD. But outside of that, he's had several games where he's scored last and the defense gives the lead up as time expires or with less than a minute on the clock. I can think of at least four games that would have counted as "game-winning" drives if the defense had done their goddamn jobs.

All this idiotic talk about "will" and "clutchness" and other nonsense is just lazy explanations for perfectly rational outcomes based on the situations, players and coaching involved. For example, I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt we were going to lose the Bears game less than two plays into the Bears last drive when Norman was targeted repeatedly and yet did not change his coverage. It was a mere formality at that point.

I'm tired of hearing about Luck, and I'm tired of so-called Panthers fans slamming our QB because the media has them believing the horseshit that Cam lacks something that the anointed ones like Luck has. The only thing Cam lacks is goddamn competent coaching staff.

[Marguide]

I can't...and I don't think anyone can. But the play that luck won the game on yesterday was a play that wasn't executed perfectly but he got it in the end zone. I'm not saying Luck had anything to do with it but what I'm saying is there is an obvious difference in some QB's ability to move the team in those situations and Cam's right now. Your guess is as good as mine but I think its just something he is learning how to do and we have to be patient.

Take Jake for instance, he was great at willing his team to victory at times...moving the ball down field and winning games. He wasn't the best QB in the league, far from it but he won games. Cam needs to do more of that to silence the critics.

A good start is giving him more freedom to audible, something they've done the last couple of weeks (and ironically, right after they started catching grief for not giving him the freedom to do it). Too often, he just goes out there and runs what he's given, and that is hurting his development. Make him take his lumps and learn like everyone else.

You're right though, patience is required.