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UPDATE! Rick Reilly is a lying dingleberry clinging to his hatred of Cam Newton

Cary Kollins

By Cary Kollins,
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FurdTurgason Newbie

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obtuse?

you made an extraordinary claim with evidence you claim to have but refuse to present. called out on it, you resort to sniping instead of giving actual examples.

1. It wasn't an extraordinary claim

2. I didn't even make it, others in this thread did

3. I'm not sniping. You really ARE obtuse. I just looked it up in the dictionary and it had your picture.

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He rewrote the NFL record book last year.....Cam wasn't average. Team sport, Cam being bananas last year doesn't mean he can overcome the averagness that was around him.

Most, if not all, of his records will be broke by Luck and/or RG3 this year. The league has changed & thus inflated QB stats. Throwing for 4k yards & 21 td is far from superstar status. Superstars don't throws almost as many INT as TD, which Newton does. He had a phenomenal season; for a rookie. But he isn't even a top 15 QB right now, much less a superstar.

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PhillyB Grand Master

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1. It wasn't an extraordinary claim

The things that players are saying about Cam

The things that players are saying about Cam

The things that players are saying about Cam

The things that players are saying about Cam

The things that players are saying about Cam

Sorry, but a long postulation about how Cam's relationship with lockerroom guys "is not unlike" departed misfit cancer Julius Peppers' is an extraordinary claim especially when you start it with "the things that players are saying about cam" and then refuse to reference a single source, player or otherwise.

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Most, if not all, of his records will be broke by Luck and/or RG3 this year. The league has changed & thus inflated QB stats. Throwing for 4k yards & 21 td is far from superstar status. Superstars don't throws almost as many INT as TD, which Newton does. He had a phenomenal season; for a rookie. But he isn't even a top 15 QB right now, much less a superstar.

Doesn't matter if Luck and RGIII each get a piece....what Cam did was certainly impressive.

And it is silly to expect a 2nd yr QB to be elite. Peyton, Eli, Big Ben, Brees, Brady.....none where elite in year 2.

What matters is where you are in your career. 27 games in is how you view judge Cam.....and he has been VERY impressive when looked at in proper perspective.

And he is a superstar....that isn't debatable. The Golden Calf of Bristol is a superstar.

Eli Manning isn't a superstar. Eli is now an elite QB.....that no one cares about.

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Doesn't matter if Luck and RGIII each get a piece....what Cam did was certainly impressive.

And it is silly to expect a 2nd yr QB to be elite. Peyton, Eli, Big Ben, Brees, Brady.....none where elite in year 2.

What matters is where you are in your career. 27 games in is how you view judge Cam.....and he has been VERY impressive when looked at in proper perspective.

And he is a superstar....that isn't debatable. The Golden Calf of Bristol is a superstar.

Eli Manning isn't a superstar. Eli is now an elite QB.....that no one cares about.

And I agree with everything you just said. Cam has been extremely impressive & shown he has potential to be great. I was simply stating how idiotic it is that KT talks about how Cam is this great QB & superstar right now.

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Most, if not all, of his records will be broke by Luck and/or RG3 this year. The league has changed & thus inflated QB stats. Throwing for 4k yards & 21 td is far from superstar status. Superstars don't throws almost as many INT as TD, which Newton does. He had a phenomenal season; for a rookie. But he isn't even a top 15 QB right now, much less a superstar.

Griffin isn't on pace to pass any of Cam's records. Luck's on pace to throw for more yards, but has a lower completion % and on pace for waaay more interceptions.

I don't give a poo about either of these quarterbacks, but your post isn't accurate and it's my job to correct it.

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And I agree with everything you just said. Cam has been extremely impressive & shown he has potential to be great. I was simply stating how idiotic it is that KT talks about how Cam is this great QB & superstar right now.

Well he is great based on where he is in his career....

And he is a superstar....27 games in and he is the biggest superstar Charlotte has ever seen. Bigger than Peppers, Smitty, LJ, Mourning, whoever.....by a country mile.

Luke Kuechly is paying great. Lights out for a rookie. It can be called great....but it is great within the proper prospective. Nothing wrong with it.

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Well he is great based on where he is in his career....

And he is a superstar....27 games in and he is the biggest superstar Charlotte has ever seen. Bigger than Peppers, Smitty, LJ, Mourning, whoever.....by a country mile.

Luke Kuechly is paying great. Lights out for a rookie. It can be called great....but it is great within the proper prospective. Nothing wrong with it.

32TD to 27INT is far from great. A lack of great players in this region does not make Cam great or a superstar.

Peyton Manning is great. Cam is not.

Tom Brady is a superstar. Cam is not.

No wonder everyone outside of Carolina makes fun of Cam & this fanbase, so unbelievably delusional.

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