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What's the reason Cam is not a captain on this team?

Hotsauce

By Hotsauce,
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ReturnOfPFFL Newbie

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also the 49ers run a west coast offense and it's only natural that their quarterbacks are going to have high completion % and low INT %.

we run a stupid ass coryell variant that lives and dies (mostly dies) on the deep pass which we don't have the horses on the offensive line to run. chud's decline is mike martz esque and should be pretty apparent by now. of course kaepernick and smith have played well but that's just another dimension where a direct 1:1 comparison with newton isn't all there.

I'm sorry does the entire NFL run a west coast offense? Fine, forget comparing his int % to Alex Smith. He's clearly in a different league.

Compare him to the entire NFL average. He's at the bottom. Same for td/to ratio.

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this little exercise was based more on your extreme reliance on bellwether stats than anything else. last year it was YPP, this year it's INT %. you abandoned the former when the numbers didn't wash anymore and have clearly moved on to something else.

manning was one example amongst many, many others which are well within the common era. why is it that people accuse you of cherry picking again?

oh yeah, that's what people mean by cherry picking.

i say that because teeray spent a lot of time systematically dismantling all of your arguments last year when you were posting a lot (he looks to have continued doing so from what i've seen) and here you are bitching about him bringing up terry bradshaw.

pointing out the gaping holes in whatever inane mindfug that you're trying to pass off as a cogent logical argument is hardly "discounting turnovers %".

of course turnover percentage is an important stat genius. that's an unbelievably mundane statement-like john madden back when he was on monday night football obvious. it's just not uniformly consistent and isn't a one-size fits all stat as my posts on the previous page showed. there are some damn good NFL quarterbacks, many of whom have rings, that put up INT percentages in college that fly in the face of the argument you were trying to make about kaepernick and smith.

there are a lot of good or even great quarterbacks now that turned the ball over a shitload when they were young starters in this league. of course people always bring up peyton manning but his more-decorated brother is a great example as is drew brees and, oddly as safe to say as it is now, alex smith. brees threw 29 TDs to 31 INTs over his first three seasons. Manning was an even 44 INTs to 44 TDs when year three wrapped.

also nice heteronormative insult. looks like namecalling to me which is highly frowned upon. mods, can we get some bans in here?

Dude, first of all the common era is the Roger Goodell era. This is where offenses began having the most significant advantage over defesnses. It wasn't nowhere near this even in the early 2000's.

And it doesn't matter which stats you look at. It's all the same result. Which ones do you like? Pick one.

There are only 4 quarterbacks worse in int%

There are only 4 quarterbacks worse in td%.

There are only 4 quarterbacks worse in completion %.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/passing.htm

There are only 2 QB's that are worse than him in both int% and td%: Matt Cassel and Ryan Tannenhill

There are 0 quarterbacks that are that bad across all 3.

All meaningless? How about these?

NFL Passer rating? Bottom.

Total QB rating? Bottom.

Release time? Bottom

4th quarter comebacks? Last.

I mean....which ones do you believe are meaningful?

PS: I can see nothing's changed around here. Can't actually argue the argument, so you attack the person. It's all you know and it's all you have ever known.

Same lame ass bullying tactic. That's all you are capable of. Same game of 4-5 butt boys ganging up on anyone with a different opinion.

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Seeing people like PFFL embarrassed is honestly one of the reasons I love coming here.

Well then you must hate coming here my friend cause there is nothing embarrassing about what I am writing. I have had nothing to be ashamed of. In your delusional mind, you might believe that's the case. But my track record, beginning with Clausen and on through today, has been pretty much spot on.

Just cause you refuse to acknowledge it, and just because your idea of being right is poking fun with a group of other posters, doesn't mean it's embarrassing for me. It's embarrassing for you if that's what makes your day.

You might have a point, if I didn't know what I was talking about but I'm not using magic to make all these predictions. I'm using common sense and basic football research. Which is why I have rarely fit in. A lot of you hate to face facts.

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Hey guys, Matt Moore being a top level player is just common football knowledge. The stats told me so and I'm always right.

I don't know about being always right, but it seems like you have to invent your own arguments in order to be right even once in awhile. When did I ever say Matt Moore was a "top level" player?

You're just making poo up and as I stated above you continue to shall we say, call your "crew" who will immediately nod like sheep and then laugh like idiots over something that you made up in the first place.

Isn't this the typical routine?

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Jesus Christ are you actually comparing the 49ers squad/staff to that of the Panthers? Are you high?

He did and in the same sentence tried to compare Kapernick to Rodgers....LMAO

If Cam had Harbaugh as his head coach this thread wouldn't exist and we would be at least 6-4.

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He did and in the same sentence tried to compare Kapernick to Rodgers....LMAO

If Cam had Harbaugh as his head coach this thread wouldn't exist and we would be at least 6-4.

I compared coaching staffs in the same sentence with that? Where?

Like I said, there's a common practice here of inventing convenient arguments that don't actually exist and a failure to read. It's mind boggling the amount of ignorance that some of you display. As if no one could go back 2 pages and see that I said nothing of the sort. It's simply delusional.

But you are right this thread wouldn't exist because once again, if we had Harbaugh, Cam would be on the bench or would not be here at all. Harbaugh ran a pro style offense with Andrew Luck in college. He would have nothing to do with Cam Newton.

That I did say.

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I'm using common sense and basic football research. Which is why I have rarely fit in. A lot of you hate to face facts.

It never fails. Extremists always claim to be realists that just aren't accepted because the sheep don't want to hear what they have to say. They never seem to accept the possibility that no one agrees with them because they are just flat wrong.

And by the way, is it just me or does anyone else find it humorous that some people are using Colin K. as a new benchmark after 1 start in the NFL?

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