Rivera Presser - 11/19/12

[Matthias]

yes it matters. of course it matters.

buuuuttt....lets just let emotion get the better of us and start swinging around the axe without any plan.

irrational thought processes ftw.

I would think the players would still know how to play football, without Rivera being in their ears. They would still have a playbook, and practice game situations throughout the week. You could put a figure head on the sidelines, and let the players play. Honestly, I don't see Rivera winning another game. So what harm would it do not to have him on the sidelines? As the song goes, "I can do bad by myself".

[fieryprophet]

Well that is not going to happen. As long as he is OC and Cam is his quarterback, this is the offense we are running. So expect to see the same garbage for the next six weeks.

This is the most retarded line of reasoning I've ever heard: "Because our OC is an idiot who will only utilize a pro set if he's stuck with a QB that can't run the read option, we should sit our young QB whose best play comes in a pro offense in favor of his backup just for the lulz."

DAMMIT, THIS BOARD MAKES ME QUESTION MY SANITY.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

I personally, cannot wait to witness Rivera's last game. Hell, I may even go to the game in person as tickets will be dirt cheap. Its like saying you watched the Titanic or Hindenburg go down. We will talk about it for generations.

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Missed opportunities will be said no less than a dozen times

"They really battled"

[rayzor]

I would think the players would still know how to play football, without Rivera being in their ears. They would still have a playbook, and practice game situations throughout the week. You could put a figure head on the sidelines, and let the players play. Honestly, I don't see Rivera winning another game. So what harm would it do not to have him on the sidelines? As the song goes, "I can do bad by myself".

lol that's a recipe for success if i ever saw one.

wow.

[Matthias]

This is the most retarded line of reasoning I've ever heard: "Because our OC is an idiot who will only utilize a pro set if he's stuck with a QB that can't run the read option, we should sit our young QB whose best play comes in a pro offense in favor of his backup just for the lulz."

DAMMIT, THIS BOARD MAKES ME QUESTION MY SANITY.

Is it not true we complain about the read option week in and week out?

[CRA]

I feel bad for him in the sense that he took so long to get this gig and it's taking so little time for him to lose it. It sucks when dreams get dashed like this for a man. But in the end, he's a poo HC and we need a leader to lead our team, not a stubborn HC unwilling to put it out there on the line.

There are a lot of great coordinators that can't be HCs. There are a lot of HCs that really are better as HCs than coordinators.

Now Ron knows. He will have no trouble finding a job again as a DC

[Cyberjag]

I never cared for Fox's personality. He came across as a prick.

Ron I like. He is honest and seems to be a guy you could enjoy a beer with. Hate it's not working for him.

I have mused lately that Rivera's record might be significantly better had Hurney been fired with Fox was let go.

Based on everything I've read about him, and the things that I've heard directly from his former players, he's a completely different guy when the camera is off, and a ton of fun to be around. One of his former players basically summed it up by saying that one of the reasons he was so close-mouthed was because he believed that you never, ever give any information out that could possibly be used against you. So it was what it was.

I'll go back to a coach like that in a heartbeat, if he wins games. Rivera was the change people wanted, and look how that's turned out.

[fieryprophet]

Is it not true we complain about the read option week in and week out?

Yes, which is why I'd rather that Chud got his head out of his ass and played Cam out of a pro offense rather than forcing Chud to do what he should be doing by playing DA instead. In what possible way does that make any sense?!?

[rayzor]

Yes, which is why I'd rather that Chud got his head out of his ass and played Cam out of a pro offense rather than forcing Chud to do what he should be doing by playing DA instead. In what possible way does that make any sense?!?

we aren't running the read option as a base because cam's limited to that. we are running it as a base because chud wants to do that. starting DA does nothing but make a bad situation worse....just like firing rivera mid season with no solid option as a replacement.

funny....mathias says that keeping rivera would hurt cam's development or whatever, but he wants to bench cam in favor of DA.

[jarhead]

Sounds like Rivera has been assured that he'll be allowed to finish out the season.

He wouldn't go so far as to say that's what JR told him, but that's basically what he said.

Yea he has all but said that JR has told him what it will take to keep his job and he said much of it had to do with wins.I wonder if he had hired an more accomplished OC if we would be having this conversation.

[Gucci Mane]

Benching Cam is the last thing that would help this team. The offensive scheme needs to change and Chud is being lazy now. He thinks he can revolutionize the game of football but he clearly either has dementia or had a stroke in the offseason because our offense went from exciting to worrisome. This season was his clinical trial for his Robfense, and its cost us in many ways. Hes gonna stick with it too because his ego is too big to admit failure.

[Inimicus]

I would think the players would still know how to play football, without Rivera being in their ears. They would still have a playbook, and practice game situations throughout the week. You could put a figure head on the sidelines, and let the players play. Honestly, I don't see Rivera winning another game. So what harm would it do not to have him on the sidelines? As the song goes, "I can do bad by myself".

And all you need to do to find the flaws in that line of reasoning is look to New Orleans.

They couldn't get their poo together until Vitt (a.k.a. Sean Payton's right hand) got off his suspension. Even with all of the "Brees is a coach on the field and he will not let them come apart" talk.

Now who do you think is so in tune with Rivera's game planning and game day philosophy that they could pull it off without looking like a prep squad?

[Chimera]

Still cant get it to come up.