clady,otah,williams,and albert

[Peppers90 NC]

I think Clady has given up only .5 of a sack all season. And he was immediately plugged into Cutlers blind side. No shame in Otah up to this point in their short careers being second to Clady, right now.

[Woodie]

Clady came into Boise St. as a defensive tackle and never played offensive line all through high school. He left college after his Jr. season and this is only his 4th year playing the LT position.:eek:

But at least he played football, and had at least a rudementary understanding of each position's responsibilities (especially since as a DL he had to have some idea what of his opponent was doing). Otah didn't play ANY football until he was a senior in high school, and was so far removed from it that he didn't even know basic things like what a Mike or Sam are. Heck, he never even played a backyard pickup game before that. Basically, he had to learn the entire game from scratch as a HS senior.

[Woodie]

Oh, and now that I've made my post quota for the day, may I add:

:beatdeadhorse5:

[cutler7624]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie01.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie02.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie03.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie04.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie05.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie06.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie07.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie08.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie09.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie10.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie11.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie12.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie13.htm

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie14.htm

Who is this Otah lineman you speak of?:hand:

[Vagrant]

Otah is a mauler, plain and simple. Along with Keydrick Vincent and Ryan Kalil there is a reason why a lot of our run plays go to that side. Otah never loses the LOS battle and always gets push in the running game.

His pass rush defense is a little suspect at this stage, but that will get better with footwork and healthy legs to work on. In terms of a raw product, I like Otah the best. Clady is a really strong football player with already strong fundamentals but I think Otah is stronger in terms of brute strength and will play a little heavier.

When the fundamentals catch up to the pure athleticism and strength with Otah, he'll be nearly impossible to beat. I like him at RT for the duration of his career, however. Thus, his value may be a little less than Clady.

[Williams34]

Long...

[cutler7624]

Long...

Wrong....

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Rookie+of+the+Year+Meter/2008/rookie13.htm

Just so there’s no confusion, let’s get this out of the way: Unless he blows out a knee in the next couple weeks, there’s no way, absolutely zero chance, that Matt Ryan does not wind up taking Offensive Rookie of the Year honors. And at this point, even a season-ending injury is unlikely to sway voters in a different direction. Over the last 30 years, Dan Marino and Ben Roethlisberger are the only quarterbacks who can make compelling arguments for putting together better rookie campaigns.

However, the notion that he has been, hands down, the best rookie isn’t quite so obvious. Most valuable? Certainly. Most publicized? Without a doubt. Deserving of all the hype? Yep. But best? Probably, but it’s a whole heck of a lot closer than you might imagine.

NFL Rookie of the Year Meter: Broncos OLT Ryan Clady

Broncos OLT Ryan Clady

Few outside Denver have paid attention to this, but Broncos OLT Ryan Clady quietly is staging one of most outstanding seasons for a rookie offensive lineman the NFL has seen in quite some time. Like Ryan, Clady’s soft spoken and humble, but unlike Ryan, he hasn’t been cascaded with the compliments befitting a player of his ability. He is, after all, an offensive tackle — and mighty fine one.

Consider that Clady is one of only three offensive tackles to have started every game this season and allowed less than one sack. Amazingly, Clady’s bookend on the right side, Ryan Harris, is one of the others, along with Titans OLT Michael Roos.

Clady’s latest effort against the Jets was among his best yet, forming an impenetrable wall against a defense that has been among the NFL’s best in getting to the quarterback. He was just as instrumental in the running game, springing Peyton Hillis — a fellow rookie who switched from fullback to running back after injuries decimated Denver’s RB stable — for 129 yards. For Clady, last Sunday was just another day on the field. Since Day One, he has been tremendous. As good as Browns OLT Joe Thomas was a season ago, even he struggled out of the gate before settling in his spot.

As frequent readers of this spot know, the Rookie Meter isn’t intended to predict postseason honors. It’s made to gauge who has been the best, plain and simple. And right now, the difference between No. 1 and No. 2 is razor thin.

[Brandon]

Know where all our big runs came from against the Bucs? Between Otah and Vincent. Just throwing that out there.... And it's not like the Bucs didn't know we were going to be running behind them either, we did the same thing against Green Bay.

[cutler7624]

Peyton Hillis, Selvin Young, Andre Hall, Michael Pittman, PJ Pope, and Tatum Bell average a combined 5.82 YPC running to Clady's side.

Johnathon Stewart and Deangelo Williams average 5.0 YPC running to Otah's side.

No knock on Otah but Clady is like a Walter Jones/Orlando Pace LEFT TACKLE. Guys like Clady don't come around very often. Otah might turn out to be a solid tackle but he just isn't on Clady's level.

[cutler7624]

Peyton Hillis, Selvin Young, Andre Hall, Michael Pittman, PJ Pope, and Tatum Bell average a combined 5.82 YPC running to Clady's side.

Johnathon Stewart and Deangelo Williams average 5.0 YPC running to Otah's side.

No knock on Otah but Clady is like a Walter Jones/Orlando Pace LEFT TACKLE. Guys like Clady don't come around very often. Otah might turn out to be a solid tackle but he just isn't on Clady's level.

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[Woodie]

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LOL, you really don't know much about the Panthers or Otah, do you?

If you truly believe that Clady is a better, or even equal, run blocker, you have lost all credibility in this discussion. For the most part, all of us Panther fans have given Clady his due repect and acknowledged he is the better pass blocker. However, for some reason, you Bronco fans can't seem to show the same class (at least some of you).

And for the record, all those links you keep trying to shove at us use his pass blocking as the gauge for considering him as one of the top rookies. Do you know why, because sack numbers are more glamerous than bulldozing a DE 10yards off the LOS to open a run lane. It's also easier to quantify. However, if you paid more attention to what has been written and said about Otah, you would realize that he has gotten a lot of props for being the top run blocker in this class. He came in with a reputation as a mauler, and has met expectations.

[Foochacho]

Gayest bump ever.

[cutler7624]

LOL, you really don't know much about the Panthers or Otah, do you?

If you truly believe that Clady is a better, or even equal, run blocker, you have lost all credibility in this discussion. For the most part, all of us Panther fans have given Clady his due repect and acknowledged he is the better pass blocker. However, for some reason, you Bronco fans can't seem to show the same class (at least some of you).

And for the record, all those links you keep trying to shove at us use his pass blocking as the gauge for considering him as one of the top rookies. Do you know why, because sack numbers are more glamerous than bulldozing a DE 10yards off the LOS to open a run lane. It's also easier to quantify. However, if you paid more attention to what has been written and said about Otah, you would realize that he has gotten a lot of props for being the top run blocker in this class. He came in with a reputation as a mauler, and has met expectations.

I think it is safe to say Deangelo Williams and Johnathon Stewart are better than any RB's we have.... And Clady is run blocking better than Otah. Check the stats.

Otah could turn out to be a solid Right Tackle but he is no Clady, or Ryan Harris for that matter.

[panthers320]

I hope what happened to gross doesnt happen to otah i mean each season switching between LT and RT i really think that slowed gross down a little